~$G$~

08-02-2004, 03:57 AM

This is the first time I think these types of events have been broadcast on local tv in the US....and it's every Sunday night, allright.

www.ucombat.com

Some of my gym's affilliates have been sweeping the competition. Check out Ozzy!

stoogejitsu

08-02-2004, 04:03 AM

Checked out the fighter profiles, seems like alot of guys off of the street, is that the impression you got while watching it, or did many of the fighters seem relatively skilled?

Greese

08-02-2004, 04:37 AM

Yeah, it doesn't look like many of the guys have much experience besides "street fighter."
There are a couple of guys from Perdo Sauers school and he is known for putting out quality.'
But MMA on TV is cool. I would like to see some of the fights, watching less experienced guys can be a lot more fun than watching pros.

stoogejitsu

08-02-2004, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by greese1
Yeah, it doesn't look like many of the guys have much experience besides "street fighter."
There are a couple of guys from Perdo Sauers school and he is known for putting out quality.'
But MMA on TV is cool. I would like to see some of the fights, watching less experienced guys can be a lot more fun than watching pros.

-many of the smaller fight organizations actually recruit "streetfighters" for this reason, people like to watch to average slubs go at it, even kotc has been doing this in many of its local shows, though I know that many of the actual trained fighters, including myself, are offended by these guys even being allowed in the same cage/ring as someone who puts their blood, sweat, and tears into the sport. Maybe these idiots should stick to toughman contests.

Greese

08-02-2004, 04:55 AM

Yeah, but, fresh meat.

stoogejitsu

08-02-2004, 05:05 AM

Would you want to train for hours and hours on end, pushing yourself as far as you can possibly go, preparing to fight another elite athlete who has been training as hard as you, just to be put against a guy who's only training is watching WWE, drinking beer, and eating potato chips? In order for MMA to be taken seriously as a sport in the US we have to stop letting these untrained/untalented idiots make our sport into a laughing stock.

~$G$~

08-02-2004, 05:35 AM

True. I still think that watching all the other shlubs get rocked is pretty good incentive for these mooks to start training. I think that's what the promoter (who also owns a local gym) was trying to accomplish. Anyway, it's starting to produce some competent fighters...people from Pedro's and Walt Bayles are competing, as well as local boxing gyms, Mushin Self Defense (top quality technicians on their stand up, maybe even better than the guys from Muay Thai Institute's guy's trained by Sakasem, and good on the ground...their submissions coach is a trainer under Erik Paulson)
I'm sure it's a good place to start out.

stoogejitsu

08-02-2004, 05:47 AM

Well sounds like you have enough good schools in the area to keep the weights stocked with skilled fighters and keep out the shlubs(or at least educate them a little), with that knowledge this tv show does sound like it will be good promotion for the sport.

~$G$~

08-02-2004, 05:58 AM

yes...and trust me, man, as soon as I can get away from caring for my family and my pals....I will try and do my best to bring a little ed-u-cation to my weight class.

Deamo_Nangel

08-02-2004, 08:45 AM

The UCE here in Salt Lake is still a little too much like a toughman competition for the nonfinals fights, but when you get into the finals skill really is required to dominate. The best thing I can see that this event has done is to get the fighters more easily recognized and sponsored.

Most of the lower tier fights are dominated by those who know enough to simply keep their hands up, or not give up their backs while on the ground. It does prove to a lot of the competitors that they do infact need some kind of training, so thats good.

bjj4uandme

08-02-2004, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by greese1
Yeah, it doesn't look like many of the guys have much experience besides "street fighter."
There are a couple of guys from Perdo Sauers school and he is known for putting out quality.'
But MMA on TV is cool. I would like to see some of the fights, watching less experienced guys can be a lot more fun than watching pros.

Those shows do indeed feature a number of "Independant" fighters, meaning "street fighters". And in fact, I know that at least a few of the guys who claim(ed) to be under Pedro Sauer in fact have not trained there very much, or did and stopped going. I've heard that Pedro has even contacted some of them to ask they stop using his name in that way.

A couple of months ago, there was a cage fighting show put on by -I think it was- Rich Layton at the Muay Thai Institute and the general skill level of all the fighters there was WAY WAY higher than that of the guys in UCE. There are some pretty skilled guys n UCE but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

Little Idea

08-02-2004, 01:16 PM

UCE is ghetto MMA

Most people with real skill or potentential stop fighting in the UCE when they realize that.

Deamo_Nangel

08-02-2004, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Little Idea
UCE is ghetto MMA

Most people with real skill or potentential stop fighting in the UCE when they realize that.

Agreed

although it is cool to be able to watch this weekly event and see some weird fuckers getting up to fight. Like just a few weeks ago they had this guy who looked just like Mr. Bean fighting, he of course lost but still it was funny as hell to watch.

PizDoff

08-02-2004, 01:25 PM

sounds like a good place to get......maybe 400 or so wins

Little Idea

08-02-2004, 02:11 PM

I like the In'jun guy from Ogden that does the dances before he loses.

Don't get me wrong, I watch almost every week. It's almost like an MMA comedy show. As bad as the MMA is, the kickboxers are almost worse.

Lately, they started talking too much. Three fights in an hour with 30 minutes of commentary = blah. . .

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