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    iv heard of this school. i think they have a pretty good name out there in london. id be interested in visiting it myself. pretty sure that its the ip ching association. but from researchin them for a bit id say its deffinately worth the visit. unless your really thinkin about competing in san chou then i wouldnt waste my time with it. u should just go to a legitimate sanshou school :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouch View Post
    iv heard of this school. i think they have a pretty good name out there in london. id be interested in visiting it myself. pretty sure that its the ip ching association. but from researchin them for a bit id say its deffinately worth the visit. unless your really thinkin about competing in san chou then i wouldnt waste my time with it. u should just go to a legitimate sanshou school :P
    So, are you trying to say that this is a pretty good school as long as you don't try to fight with it?

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    not competitively anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouch View Post
    not competitively anyways.
    Ok, so its good for non-competitive fighting. That's pretty much what I got out of my time in the chun.

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    Cooperative fighting?

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    Can a chunner not cry about competition? Not competitively fight? Funny how after all the whining and crying DTT did about rules, he was able to make his oft derided chun work in a "god awful, restrictive, no deadly" MMA rule-set.

    If chunners would stop with the Comp vs Street argument they could actually gain some respect.

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    It is Fake, what do you think of Mizong or Pak Mei when studied under excellent Sifus? There are two very good Sifus in London - and another one for Shaolin five fists.

    Let's take the Sifus reputations as a given, that is not what I am disputing. My question is, when I checked their class, they did very compliant training - extremely compliant. Just non-contact one - or three-step sparring routines. More technique study. The Pak Mei Sifu said it would take at least 2 years to get anywhere with the learning.

    My question is, would it have any benefits after three years? Would I magically one day be able to use it if attacked, or have internal benefits through those exercises?

    It seems frustrating to lear. On the other hand, at 35, it looks like something one can grow old with.

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    go do muay thai. My gym always has over 40's guys show up for a workout, and tbh the amount of effort they put in almost negates the fact they are old.
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcan75 View Post
    It is Fake, what do you think of Mizong or Pak Mei when studied under excellent Sifus? There are two very good Sifus in London - and another one for Shaolin five fists.
    Excellent sifus teach you how to fight through contact. Excellent performance teachers teach you how to dance.

    Occasionally, you can find some that can do both very well.
    Let's take the Sifus reputations as a given, that is not what I am disputing. My question is, when I checked their class, they did very compliant training - extremely compliant. Just non-contact one - or three-step sparring routines. More technique study. The Pak Mei Sifu said it would take at least 2 years to get anywhere with the learning.
    2 years as to what? You aren't learning to fight with compliant non-contact technique training.

    These sound like performance sifus. Now, before an argument rises they could have been great fighters back in the day. If they aren't teaching that aspect now, it doesn't translate through osmosis.

    My question is, would it have any benefits after three years? Would I magically one day be able to use it if attacked, or have internal benefits through those exercises?
    Benefit for what? Internal benefits? You are all over the place and this is one of those "I'm looking for answers but, I really am not posts." If your mind is made up do what you want. If you are worried about being attacked, it better not take two years.



    It seems frustrating to lear. On the other hand, at 35, it looks like something one can grow old with.
    Really?

    Hélio Gracie (October 1, 1913 – January 29, 2009) R.I.P.

    Yes, the much hated BJJ Grand master lived to almost a hundred.
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    Ok, thanks - I am doing Judo with Muay Thai,

    No, my mind is not made up, the reason I am asking these is I can't believe after looking at compliant training, non-contact, why these arts are considered deadly. I spoke to the students going there, they love the classes, they said there is no sparring, just light touch if at all, yet they say it is the deadliest. I thought maybe I was missing something

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