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    I have to say I never really buy into S&C advice from judo or boxing forums. What they say is either blatant bullshit or at the very least smells like it.

    EDIT: oh and yeah, running downhill makes it very easy to hurt your knees.. just fyi.
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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    It occurred to me that sprinting uphill is a good leg building-type of exercise.

    Strong legs for judo is a good thing, amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMF View Post
    It occurred to me that sprinting uphill is a good leg building-type of exercise.

    Strong legs for judo is a good thing, amirite?
    I know pretty much bugger all about PT aside from absolute basics. However, it does occur to me that your problem may not be your fitness perse rather your hiatus from Judo and the fact that, I recall, you're a beginner.

    As a beginner people tend to do everything in Judo highly inefficiently due to their inexperience this means its way way more tiring than someone who's more experienced.

    In randori beginner vs beginner tends to be very energy intensive with a lot of spazzing and purely relying on strength and busting out of bad situations.

    A beginner vs a more experienced person also tends to be very energy intensive for beginners because they lack refined defensive skills and tend to use highly taxing defenses like stiff arming. On the ground being in bad situations all the time also saps energy like hell especially in Judo where being pinned means your losing and you are trying to get out instead of being more relaxed in BJJ. In addition attacking becomes a lot harder because you don't have the timing or skill to throw easily so have to put a lot of power and explosiveness into your techniques to try and get them to work which naturally drains your energy much quicker.

    Breakfalling skills tend to be less honed meaning you hit the floor more awkwardly and you can get the wind knocked out of you. You also keep getting thrown and the act of constantly getting thrown, getting up, stiff arming, getting thrown and getting up etc... is quite tiring, there's a reason quite a few cardio programms use dropping to the floor and getting back up again..

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    I know pretty much bugger all about PT aside from absolute basics. However, it does occur to me that your problem may not be your fitness perse rather your hiatus from Judo and the fact that, I recall, you're a beginner.
    I think you pretty well hit the nail on the head. I am used to working out hard with ballistic exercises and such.

    However judo fitness is a whole different animal. My long lay off and being, for all intensive purposes a begginer again, make for some pretty exhausting training sessions.

    I did better this morning, it's coming back at a snails pace, and even managed to snag a yonkyu with a ude garami during newaza.

    I think the solution is like you said in the other thread, keep up the weights, cardio, and DO MORE JUDO.

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