Thread: "Martial arts are for everyone."
5/10/2011 7:37am, #1
"Martial arts are for everyone."
The more I train in the martial arts the more I believe that they are not for everyone. I think I'm starting to really understand the reasons why in history there existed warrior caste social classes. And the words of William J. Bennett are ringing more and more true.
It takes a special kind of person to subject themselves to pain and injury on a regular basis to prepare for something that may never come. It's a form of sociopathy.
Now, I'm no serviceman, but I don't think it's relegated to them alone.
How does this relate to tae kwon do? Well, the vast majority of schools, regardless of their TKD sect, market it as an art for everyone. But then, so do many other arts. But I just don't think it's true. And any benefit gained through dilettante practice can be gained at a faster rate and with less struggle through other activities. Martial arts without the pain and injuries and struggle is just pretending.
Martial arts are not for everyone.
Last edited by MaverickZ; 5/10/2011 7:45am at .
5/10/2011 8:51am, #2
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I have to agree with the OP, sort of. ALIVE martial arts aren't for everyone, but damn they're fun!!
5/10/2011 11:00am, #3
Martial arts are for everyone fighting is not for everyone. You are confusing the two.Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
5/10/2011 2:39pm, #4
5/10/2011 3:17pm, #5
Martial arts is not fighting. Its a way, a path, or a quest. Because we do not agree with certain training methods does not make them 100% ineffective. Remember virtually anything can work on someone who doesn't know ****.
So if some over weight guy takes up strip mall karate and loses some weight in the process and one day front snap kicks a dude in the face to defend himself was it a waste of his time? Is he going to go climb in the cage and take on GSP? No but the training in a low impact aerobic class or strip mall karate allowed him to gain some benefits from martial arts.
Everyone should train in a martial art. If its Tai Chi or Aikido or BJJ or Judo just remember that your training does not make you a fighter but a better prepared human. Understand the limits of the style your training and the level it is and will take you.Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
5/10/2011 4:04pm, #6
You guys are going to get into a semantics debate. I actually agree with most of your point Coach Josh, but disagree with how your distinct separation of Martial Art and fighting. I think they are both for everyone. For me you are wrong semantically Maverick because, anybody can try anything just not everyone is meant to succeed. Some people do, some people slide by, some people excel, some people are mediocre and some people quit.
5/10/2011 4:41pm, #7
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5/10/2011 4:52pm, #9
Coach, if we ignore the fighting aspect of the martial arts, what is left? The aerobic exercise aspect, strength training, flexibility training, tings of that nature, right? Given the amount of time spent on the fighting aspect, wouldn't it be more time efficient to train in something else. Gymnastics or yoga maybe. I can appreciate all the "side" benefits of martial arts training, but I think those benefits could be obtained faster and more directly in another activity. One wouldn't take up ice hockey to learn how to ice skate.
Last edited by MaverickZ; 5/10/2011 4:56pm at .
5/10/2011 5:11pm, #10
The only reason most people have to pursue martial arts is pure preference: because one wants to. And even if fighting is part of one's job, choosing that job is a matter of preference, albeit a preference constrained by circumstance. You seem to have some intuition that martial arts has some objective cross-situational utility that isn't in evidence. Not surprisingly, your intuition is informed by your own training and other beliefs about the benefits of sparring, working hard, and your need to have some sort of "objective" benefits for what you prefer doing. It's a common thing, but in most cases, people's preferences come first and "objective" proof or claims about the utility of this or that endeavor are just ad hoc justifications.