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    Police Judo vs Jujutsu Matches-Myth or Reality

    I've alluded to the fact that there may be some question regarding whether or not the famous 1886 matches between Totsuka-ha Yoshin Ryu either took place or had results as commonly thought commonly in Judo today.

    Here is a specific thread regarding this at JudoForum.

    Very interesting stuff, enjoy!

    http://judoforum.com/index.php?/topi...atches-happen/

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    Awesome read.

    I think a lot of it is just lost in history and as with most tales it got exaggerated over time. Maybe their was a meeting of the ryus and it was a demonstration contest and Judo won out or maybe they did it with the intent of not letting anyone know what was going on. IDK. Sad to have this kind of light shown on Judo though.

    I was always under the impression it was a public match which they lined up bowed and went after it with an audience.
    Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Josh View Post
    Sad to have this kind of light shown on Judo though.
    Yes, someone should tell this pinko commie feminist revisionist Zwicker (probably a jew too) to STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Josh View Post
    Awesome read.

    I think a lot of it is just lost in history and as with most tales it got exaggerated over time. Maybe their was a meeting of the ryus and it was a demonstration contest and Judo won out or maybe they did it with the intent of not letting anyone know what was going on. IDK.
    True. Maybe it was some kind of throwdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Josh View Post
    Awesome read.

    I think a lot of it is just lost in history and as with most tales it got exaggerated over time. Maybe their was a meeting of the ryus and it was a demonstration contest and Judo won out or maybe they did it with the intent of not letting anyone know what was going on. IDK. Sad to have this kind of light shown on Judo though.

    I was always under the impression it was a public match which they lined up bowed and went after it with an audience.
    I have not drawn any conclusions yet based on the ongoing research into the subject of the police matches.

    Personally, I'm happy to see someone doing the real research about the history of Judo. To really understand Judo for what it intended to be can help us to be better judoka in the long run.

    For me, there is nothing disappointing in finding out that Judo was perhaps not intended to be a "complete" fighting system by Kano.

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    Its only a credit to the creation of judo if it wasn't intended to be a "complete" fighting system. The founding principles allow it to naturally happen. Its the perfect example that if you are cultivating proper morals and ethics, training your body, and using scientific methods then you will arrive at a proper martial art. (Meaning one that has real fighting application.)

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