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**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 2:05am

Sorry, Sang, just to remind me, are you cutting weight for a fight, or a do you want to lose a few pounds in general?

- Because, on the long term, I'd probably pass on your plan because of all the nutritional supplements. I'd rather eat whole food.

**kayman101** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 2:11am

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

Your committment?

20 $ for something you don't like, in case you fail?

You mean posting my fat ass for you all to see isn't enough commitment? Just kidding. Let me think of some cause that makes my sphincter pucker and I'll get back to you.

**Emevas** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 2:58am

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

Sorry, Sang, just to remind me, are you cutting weight for a fight, or a do you want to lose a few pounds in general?

- Because, on the long term, I'd probably pass on your plan because of all the nutritional supplements. I'd rather eat whole food.

There are very few supplements in that plan. Everyone should be taking fish oil and a multi, and from there it's a scoop of protein powder a day.

**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 3:08am

The point is, I'd rather eat healthy before I let pills do the work, and I think for serious dieting, it's the wrong approach.

Means, instead of taking vitamin pills, I prefer to eat two or three different fruits each day.

Or instead of taking fish oil capsules, I rather eat some fish. :)

***battlefields*** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 3:19am

The multi I'm with pilgrim, if you want expensive urine, take a multi. But the fish oil I'm with emevas, you cannot eat that much fish in a day.

**Emevas** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 3:20am

You'd have to eat a ton of fish to get that value. The same is true of the multis. You can't just eat 2-3 pieces of fruit to equal a multi, you have to eat an incredibly good diet.

You can eat healthy AND take multis and fish. There is no false dichotomy here.

***battlefields*** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 3:30am

I understand your point and agree in part but too much vitamins just get pissed out. As pilgrim probably meant, if you are getting your vitamins from whole foods like you should, a multi is useless. Fish oil doesn't just get pissed out, from what I understand.

**Emevas** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 3:36am

Right, but very few people get proper vitamens from their diet, and that's the point of a multi. Yes, you should be eating good, but this thread is a living testament to the fact that most people will give into temptation WAY more often than they will remain consistent in their diet.

I don't get the concern about vitamens being pissed out. That's why you're taking the multi while eating healthy.

**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 4:09am

I agree with what you two said, but I think the problem with most overweight people (that I know personally) lies with an overall low quality of life that is mostly caused by a sum of bad habbits and a lack of inner harmony.

Eating some fast or instant food vs cooking your own meal.

Eating next to no vegetables and fruit vs having a balanced diet.

Eating a lot of articificial sugar vs natural (fruit) sugar.

Taking care of your body (shaving, showering, exercise) in a rush or under pressure vs having a balanced time management.

...And so on.

The issue I have with nutritional supplements is that pills don't make up for the relaxing feeling you will have if you do the above things properly.

Means, and, yeah, this is the archetypical lazy Spaniard speaking, the sensual pleasures of instant noodles plus a dozen pills escape me.

I think it's vital that people understand that they can only get a better body if they feel good doing it.

**Emevas** · Posted On: 10/05/2010 4:12am

Again, you are creating a false dichtomoy. No one is saying to take multis and fish oils at the expense of proper nutrition and lifestyle, but in ADDITION to. Just because you take multis and fish doesn't mean you don't also eat fish and fruits and veggies.