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  1. bemused is offline
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    From those folks, no news is good news. Either that or there's another month-long COL class in which Kimmie is threatening to dismiss them all and they're begging to be abused some more. At this point I'm only mildly curious.
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    I had another COL dream last night, but this one was really interesting. In the first part, the COL members were responding to Kimmie as usual, except that they were exchanging knowing looks as if agreeing to humor her. Later on they were conspiring to help each other pack up and leave. Some instructors, such as SHS, were being humored just as Kimmie was, while others helped with the packing. DKP came back to help.

    Oddly, I was packing up but my hubby was helping me and I was packing a guitar, and neither my hubby nor my guitar were in my life when I left COL. I recently escaped a verbally abusive female boss, and dreams often connect the past with the present.
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    5/15/2012 4:06pm


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    Glad you got away from the bad female boss....you've been there, done that.
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    Of course, bad bosses can be of either gender, and so can good ones. Bad female bosses tend to remind me of Kimmie, while bad male ones tend to remind me of one of my former stepfathers.
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    Hi I've been reading this thread all weekend.
    My question... Did anyone get counseling after leaving?
    I know someone who's bee out about 4 yrs...
    And the once humble person who was reunited with us right after is now acting like kim. Sociopathic behaviors. Words and actions.
    I have now backed away from this person. Feeling duped by all the religious talk and fakeness.
    I want to believe there is a different person inside.
    The cult changed this person to be mean and manipulative.
    Wondering if there is any hope for this ex...
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    5/19/2012 4:58pm


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    Don't let this person get into your "space". Just continue being who you are, and if they want to be part of your group or family or whatever, they'll have to change their behavior. Yes, madame is good at brainwashing, but I am of the belief that any mental process can be reversed given enough time.
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    5/19/2012 5:41pm

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    Yes I know that now. Unfortunately the damage has been done to her reunited family and new friends....
    I want nothing to do with this person now.
    Just sad for my wife. Who was a sibling of this messed up person who trusted
    Too much.
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    5/19/2012 6:35pm


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    I don't know how involved you want to get in this situation, but perhaps you could meet with the family and explain what happens to people in cults. That is if you feel the person is worth your effort at this point. Madame as you know alienates people from their friends and loved ones.
    Probably their brain patterns have been seriously altered, and the longer they were in her clutches, the longer it will take to rewire them.
    You mention that this person is related to your wife - maybe..just maybe....this person will come to understand that blood is thicker than water.......
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    5/19/2012 6:47pm

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    The family and myself know all about the cult.
    This thread helped me to understand more where they're coming from.
    This person was in for over 10 yrs.
    I'm not ready to fight for this person...
    Too many lies and manipulation.
    We r all stepping back.
    Hope one day they will see that family is sacred.
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    5/19/2012 7:01pm


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    Do what you feel is best then - stepping back and letting them find their own way home is less stress on you and the family. I don't know what prompted this person to leave the cult, but I hope they have enough self respect not to go back.

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