Looking for ex Jung SuWon / Tae Yun Kim students (Part 4)

**Kathy Kim** · Posted On: 1/19/2012 2:15pm

I said last night I was going to look for alll I have and have written. Plus things that back up what I say or have said. It really it time to get everything out there, all together.

**Kathy Kim** · Posted On: 1/19/2012 5:04pm

I really like the blog put up by Cultmaster from before. I would like to see all that brought back online and it adds to the timeline of her exploits. I don't know why it was taken down.

**clarehoare** · Posted On: 1/19/2012 7:34pm

I just posted a new blog. I found the video, and posted it.

http://cultmember.wordpress.com/2012...deo-from-1998/

**Failed Student** · Posted On: 1/19/2012 8:09pm

I'm glad you found the video Clarehoare. I would hate to think it was lost for all time.
I personally have neither need nor desire to download it. I might have been a contibutor to it had I replied to a phone message left by Dan Noyes who was the investigative reporter.
That is another story for another time...

**clarehoare** · Posted On: 1/19/2012 8:20pm

Dan had a separate investigation.. he never came through. I still keep in touch with him, but he is definitely a bit flakey. This was independent of that.

**Failed Student** · Posted On: 1/19/2012 8:24pm

Originally Posted by clarehoare

Dan had a separate investigation.. he never came through. I still keep in touch with him, but he is definitely a bit flakey. This was independent of that.

I didn't realize there were two investigations. I was unwittingly dragged into this when my name and then phone number were given to him by an ex cultie.

**clarehoare** · Posted On: 1/19/2012 10:09pm

Originally Posted by Failed Student

I didn't realize there were two investigations. I was unwittingly dragged into this when my name and then phone number were given to him by an ex cultie.

A lot of people think that. I believe its because it happened concurrently.. But alas Dan dropped the ball.

**clarehoare** · Posted On: 1/20/2012 2:25am

I went ahead and uploaded it to a site, so that it's easier to download.

**Failed Student** · Posted On: 1/20/2012 9:28am

When I see her responding to the "are you a cult" question with "absolutely not", the term "lying through one's teeth" comes to mind.

**bemused** · Posted On: 1/23/2012 12:59pm

"Are you a cult?" was a dumb question to ask. No one is ever going to answer "yes." And cult leaders are so good at lying that they can be quite convincing. Often they really do think their group is different from those other ones that people call cults.

The way the students spoke was more revealing. My hubby has studied voice acting and singing, and he noticed that their vocal tones had a stressed, forced quality, especially when they were trying to be cheerful.