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  1. Petter is offline

    12th level logic wielder

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    8/26/2010 2:49pm


     Style: BJJ, judo, rapier

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It seems that Academie Duello is teaching some of this material: See here for brief notes and comical pictures. (I mention AD an awful lot lately, don’t I? But they do so much diverse cool stuff…)

    Sadly, I will likely never try it since I am too violently allergic to step near a horse.
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    “The plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data.”
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    pro nonsense self defense

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    Posted On:
    8/26/2010 4:14pm

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     Style: FMA, dumbek, Indian clubs

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    I’m surprised that there’s no flying side kick jokes.
  3. Dak is offline

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    9/07/2010 11:49am


     Style: Boxing

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I feel like a left handed jouster would win. all the time.

    likewise I would love to grapple/brawl from horseback, but horses mildly intimidate me. Just as well, any combat form horseback seems fun, yabusame.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Judo/BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Like Polo, you are required to joust right-handed.
  5. Dak is offline

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     Style: Boxing

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    Really? It would seem to make the game more fair i suppose.
  6. willaume is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/10/2010 6:14am


     Style: aikido, medieval fencing

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    Hello
    I have been posted for a while but I had to keep me in the habit of eating 3 times a day.

    It is very hard to make something look good on horse back.
    I have been riding for a while about and I joust with balsa tip and solid lance (in pine or poplar).
    YouTube - Jousting: Tournament at the Tower pt 1, London England 2007
    YouTube - Tudor Jousting at Kenilworth Castle

    I have done some filming on horse back for reclaiming the blade, and it is quite hard to find a format, the way we did it, I stand still and the other guy was coming at me.
    As Judoist said break falling is a must on horse back and those girl are smart to do so in a place where artistic dismount landing have been catered for.

    Fighting from horse is not too dissimilar in essence, but the forces, in the physic terms, are much greater. You have a greater speed and a much greater mass.
    It is even worse when you are using the horse explosive power in the technique.
    And onto of that you can not be sure how a modern horse is going to react.

    Yes we can make the technique look a bit more martial and using a bit more of biomechanical advantage, but really you need a fair amount of riding, fencing/ringen and ukemei experience to make it safe to practice.

    Now to be honest before I tried it I would not have believed it was possible to deflect the tip of lance with your own lance or arm. And in fact it is dead easy.
    And the 3 one time counter in Ringeck, 4 in the other glossator.
    (the one in VD and mot ion ringeck is not as certain as the 3 others, especially if a lance rest is used.)


    Stirrup are not a necessity, it really depends of the saddle you are using.
    For example in Saumur the piquer saddle or gallic/roman/samorso-parthian 4horns saddle does not have stirrups and you do not need them, it just makes climbing onboard easier. (To be fair it is very likely that medieval saddle for the knight call were tailored for one man arse and one horseback).

    From Dom Duarte we know that there was 4 manner of riding (and you should know all of them
    Bare back, long leg standing in the saddle, in a proto Spanish saddle and like janites, Arab saddle, with short legs and a less gripping saddle but if you practice in saddle that do not hold your hip you can not really used the rocking of your own body forward and back to initiate the technique further away/earlier.

    phil
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