Native American MA- Coven Research - Livingston, LA

**Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 6:10am

http://www.covenresearch.com/Our-Team.html

Originally Posted by testimonials

“First of all, I would like to say that the only reason I took your course was to prove you were a fraud. Now I have 8 years mma experience, and I thought that was enought. But, the only thing I proved was that mma is worthless against your stuff. Don't get me wrong, I still love mma, but I will never use it in a real fight again!”
Mark M.

Who is Mark M.?
Where does he train?

When this thread hits YMAS, it's going to become a comedy goldmine. Unfortunally you ain't the one laughing.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 6:10am

Originally Posted by JudOWNED

lol This thread is headed for epic failure. It won't last the day in Newbietown.

If you go to their site you can plainly see from the first "testimonial".

Originally Posted by trollsite

“First of all, I would like to say that the only reason I took your course was to prove you were a fraud. Now I have 8 years mma experience, and I thought that was enought. But, the only thing I proved was that mma is worthless against your stuff. Don't get me wrong, I still love mma, but I will never use it in a real fight again!”
Mark M.

They think they know what they are doing.

You all could have played dumb just a little bit longer. No, no one has seriously gotten to into him/them yet, but a feint is still a punch to some people.

***jnp*** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 7:02am

To be fair, I culled this out of another new member's Newbietown thread as well as choosing the title.

**Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 7:21am

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 7:44am

Come on guys that website although well designed, can't be real. Countdown to ymas 10-9-8

**Asriel** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 7:56am

While slightly more intelligent than the normal level of spammers, this guy blew his load far too quickly. Ban?

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 7:57am

Being discussed shortly.

**riduan** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 10:21am

After surfing the web a long time on native combat systems, I decided they choosed, eventually, to use gun-fu and the usual set of blade weapons. Nobody knew a system to native fighting approach, with the exception of reenactors, but that`s another thing.
Still, it`s worth to pursue a clue, no matter how small the chances.

**helmutlvx** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 12:15pm

The possibility of codified Native American martial arts has been covered before.

Native American Martial Arts? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

There are lots and lots of questions that aren't answered by the OP or his website.

-What tribe did these techniques come from?
-Have these techniques been used against pro or amateur fighters?
-If so, what are their names and records?
-The minimum time for the "courses" is 1 hour. How much fighting technique can be learned in a single hour?
-Why are there no examples or videos?
-Why do the founders of this "system" not show their full names and credentials in detail?

There are so many fucking questions it's mind-boggling. This has to be a troll.

**Vorpal** · Posted On: 8/18/2010 1:50pm

It's appropriate for his introduction to be in Newbietown (welcome, btw).

It would also be appropriate to start another thread (YMAS definately, MABS possibly) to discuss the Covenresearch site. (insert facepalm here)