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  1. Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezgirl View Post
    There are Creole with blue eyes, but even if a person is a decendant of the French aristocratic Creole (being european in decent) they mainly have brown eyes. So we really can't go by looks.

    I did however, manage to contact some Creole activists, sent them links to this site as well as the OP, we'll see what they have to say. It would be really disturbing to find out that being Creole was yet another fabrication. I'd begin to wonder if he was a sociopath.
    Hello rezgirl, welcome to BS.net.

    yes, he can be 'Creole' if all his ancestors are from French, German and Northern Spanish decent. Than he would have blue eyes.
    Yet he claims some Native American ancestory and that nullifies the chance of blue eyes.

    While I'm not a licensed genetic specialist, I have read a lot over the years over "Aryan"-Germanic caucasians.

    This coming from the fact that:
    - me and my family fitting this type of genetic stereotype.
    - WWII cost us some family members (being patriotic Belgians)
    - My late father was named Adolf (please no Hitler/nazi jokes, he was named before Adolf Hitler rose to power and suffered a lot in that war and a lot of prejudice after it because of his firstname.

    So you can say that it has become some what of a petpeeve of mine over the years.

    With kind regards,
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  2. rezgirl is offline

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    8/25/2010 10:23am

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    I emailed these folks - http://www.ataacademy.com/ regarding Coven Research.

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    From: Master Dwayne D. Dendy [mailto:dddendy@bellsouth.net]
    Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:13 AM
    To: Rezgirl
    Subject: RE: Looking for some information

    I agree….the best way to approach this is through the Secretary of States office…..The Martial Arts Community is a small one and pretty much everyone knows everyone…..



    From: Rezgirl
    Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:08 AM
    To: 'Master Dwayne D. Dendy'
    Subject: RE: Looking for some information

    Thank you for your quick response. No, I am not looking for a school (besides I do not live in Louisiana). I am simply concerned about these kids making false claims and the potential of somebody getting hurt should they sign up for classes with them as well as their lying about techniques that do not exist.

    Regards,

    Rezgirl

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    From: Master Dwayne D. Dendy [mailto:dddendy@bellsouth.net]
    Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:56 AM
    To: Rezgirl
    Subject: RE: Looking for some information

    I do not know anything about them sorry. I have been in the Martial Arts Community for some 25 years + and I have never heard of these guys. There have been a lot of people claiming to know a lot since the MMA Craze has kicked in.

    Are you looking for a School?

    From: Rezgirl
    Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:44 AM
    To: info@atamartialartacademy.com
    Subject: Looking for some information

    Greetings,

    I was wondering if you knew anything about this business - Native American MA- Coven Research - Livingston, LA – www.covenresearch.com

    The two young men operating this school of self-defense claim to have learned specific techniques that do not exist. Also, their business does not seem to be properly registered with the state, their not being an LLC leads me to believe that they are uninsured. There are individuals in both the Native American and Martial Arts communities that are concerned about their claims. If you can provide any information what so ever it would be appreciated.

    Regards,

    Rezgirl
    Last edited by rezgirl; 8/25/2010 10:25am at . Reason: added additional email response
  3. tmitch is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/25/2010 10:25am


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    Oh... by the way, now that im on yalls mabs thing or whatever it is, am i being ruined yet?

    I just did a google search and cant find the link that says im a scam. just wondering whats taking so long.

    Try a google search on Coven research now.
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    8/25/2010 10:28am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendokan View Post
    Hello rezgirl, welcome to BS.net.

    yes, he can be 'Creole' if all his ancestors are from French, German and Northern Spanish decent. Than he would have blue eyes.
    Yet he claims some Native American ancestory and that nullifies the chance of blue eyes.

    While I'm not a licensed genetic specialist, I have read a lot over the years over "Aryan"-Germanic caucasians.

    This coming from the fact that:
    - me and my family fitting this type of genetic stereotype.
    - WWII cost us some family members (being patriotic Belgians)
    - My late father was named Adolf (please no Hitler/nazi jokes, he was named before Adolf Hitler rose to power and suffered a lot in that war and a lot of prejudice after it because of his firstname.

    So you can say that it has become some what of a petpeeve of mine over the years.

    With kind regards,
    Zendo
    Hi Zendo, thanks for the welcome. Seems these kids have gotten on everyone's petpeeve list.
  5. rezgirl is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/25/2010 10:41am

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    Master Dwayne has provided me with his cellphone number and has offered his assistance regarding Coven Research. Before I go any further with this, can anyone let me know if he is legit? Again here is the link to his site http://www.ataacademy.com/.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    If they want to believe it is true I can. I've watched people go to different "faith healers" selling the same BS, under different names, for decades.
    Well you're right of course. It definitely is possible.

    Welcome to Bullshido where more people run away then they spend time answering questions.
    This type of behavior never ceases to amaze me. How difficult is it to answer questions if one is legit? How difficult is it to admit you may have stretched the truth, out and out lied, or were taken advantage of? Personally I would rather admit I was dishonest or ignorant about something than just run away.

    I'll give them the chance to do so and to correct the fabrications on their website. Otherwise I am taking Master Dwayne's advice and am contacting the LA Secretary of State's office. Not to be a bitch or to force a response out of them, but because really, if the won't offer explanations or validation, somebody signing up for their courses could get really hurt and I don't want to see that happen.
  7. Chili Pepper is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmitch View Post
    Try a google search on Coven research now.
    I just did. The Bullshido thread is #3 now.
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    Welcome to the boards rezgirl. I have followed your contributions to the thread with interest and it's great to have you here. :)
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezgirl View Post

    I'll give them the chance to do so and to correct the fabrications on their website. Otherwise I am taking Master Dwayne's advice and am contacting the LA Secretary of State's office. Not to be a bitch or to force a response out of them, but because really, if the won't offer explanations or validation, somebody signing up for their courses could get really hurt and I don't want to see that happen.
    You know what? Go ahead and contact the office now. He has had ample time to respond. The longer the questionable people exist, the longer they have to get a foothold and make illegitimate money.
  10. Coach Josh is offline
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    Posted On:
    8/25/2010 12:53pm

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    I got a full plate over the next few weeks and will try to make it over there one day and see how a class is run and talk to the guy about his style of MA.

    I am not going to get in a fight or challenge match I would just like to see what the guy is doing.

    Since I know little about Native Americans I can not comment on that.
    Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
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