We knew this was the case, but I just got an email back from Renzo...
Thank you for your email. This person is not a renzo gracie black belt
On August 11, 2010 at 2:19 AM firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> Elle Wetzel sent a message using the contact form at
> Hello Sir, I am working with the web site Bullshido and inquiring about David
> Martinez Jr. He claims he trained with you in Brazil and was awarded a Black
> Belt in Jujitsu from you after ten months of training and competing in
> Brazil. I would appreciate if you could verify his lineage and I would like
> to post the response in the thread on Bullshido relative to Mr. Martinez.
> Thank you very much for your time.
Got a text from the Scott Adams: "Who?"
Apparently Ben Rothwell went to high school with this guy and states he was a liar then, and a liar now.
Originally Posted by Ben Rothwell
Here is the Martinez discussion from the Wisconsin Combat Sports forum:
An interesting thing to note was in the discussion (July 2009) -- it was posted
Apparantly, this stuff was all taken down off his myspace page in 2009 but looking at the thread, it was the same claims as on the MMA revolution.
Originally Posted by OMALLEY
Now according to the UG, one person claims to have been in contact with David Martinez and accordingly this is what Martinez replied in an email -- though I would dearly like to hear from Martinez here himself, since IMHO, "I read this guy on the internet forum" is not a exactly what I'd call a reliable source :psyduck:
So his wife put the stuff on his myspace without his knowing about it, and his web site was put together by a student... All those claims without his knowledge...
Originally Posted by ashe101 on UG
Mr. Martinez, if you are reading this in internet land, would you please log in and set the record straight from your perspective?
Yes, I was waiting for the "<insert person webmaster web designer wife> got my credentials wrong" Bullshit answer.
Perhaps he and Armen use the same Webmaster.
Originally Posted by It is Fake
It would be one thing if he put up a bunch of BS remarks on a website, but I seriously doubt a disgruntled student went so far as to post a false resume that did contain some factual stuff (he worked for XYZ gym, wrestled in HS) and a whole lot of nonsense.
Originally Posted by TheDingo
I'm more inclined to believe the gentleman who said he is a habitual liar and always has been. That makes more sense to me.
Yes, I agree. Although, if he can provide proof like Pat M. I'll change my tune.
Originally Posted by CoffeeFan
We know that won't happen.
I've known david for almost a year and obvously knew he was a fake but never had proof until i read these forums. If any one is interested his personal cellphone number is x-xxx-xxx-xx. He hasn't been instructing MMA for almost 7 months now after being fired from his last gym. I also have information on where to find him if you guys wanted. I've found atleast 4 forums about this him but bullshido is the only one that i can create an account on so please spread this information to all the other sites.
Last edited by Rock Ape; 8/18/2010 2:09pm at .
Reason: Removal of telephone number
I believe that would be considered harassment, which isn't what we want to do. If I may ask, what is your relationship to Mr. Martinez? We're you a former student of his? Any stories you'd like to share?
Originally Posted by RW171