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  1. virtual_mantis is offline
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    I've just started a new routine that includes pullups. I use a wide grip pull up.

    Here's the routine, it's for pre-BUDs training. I'm not going to be a SEAL I just wanted try the work out.

    Here it is.
    Week 1: 4 x 15 pushups
    4 x 20 situps
    3 x 3 pullups
    Week 2: 5 x 20 pushups
    5 x 20 situps
    3 x 3 pullups
    Weeks 3&4: 5 x 25 pushups
    5 x 25 situps
    3 x 4 pullups
    Weeks 5&6: 6 x 25 pushups
    6 x 25 situps
    2 x 8 pullups
    Weeks 7&8: 6 x 30 pushups
    6 x 30 situps
    2 x 10 pullups
    Week 9: 6 x 30 pushups
    6 x 30 situps
    3 x 10 pullups

    Here's the link: http://www.angelfire.com/oh/ROCK1/pre.html
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    Originally posted by Skinny Pimp
    Ive never heard of this Tabatta sequence. Have you had sucess with this method? Im willing to give it a try if its credible.

    As for the grip, I looked on a few sites and they seem to concur with what you sadi punisher. I will take that into consideration.
    Skinny Pimp - I only post recommendations on things I have personal experience with.

    The tabatta exercises are the core of my training. I find it to be the most funtional exercises for translating physical workouts into the type of strength and energy you need for fighting.

    I recommend to anyone who is interested to spend sometime at Crossfit.com - you'll find tons of articles and forum posts on this.

    http://www.crossfit.com
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    Originally posted by keinhaar
    Do pre-exhaust your biceps with curls.

    I can honestly say - I have never heard anyone suggest pre-exhausting their biceps before doing pull-ups. I know that if I did this, I would not be able to do any pull-ups (or very few).

    Seems to me you would get the same results as pre-exhausting your triceps before you did the bench press.

    I'd be interested in hearing what the theory is behind this.
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    Sam,

    Not a different set, really. The lats cross more than one joint. With a narrow grip one could pretty closely mimic a pull over. Either way, one is adducting the upper arm.



    Gajus,

    I'm a dumb-ass. I got 'em reversed. Pre-exhausting the lats would be the thing to do.

    http://www.naturalstrength.com/featu...&ArticleID=107
    Last edited by Nid; 2/26/2004 12:37pm at .
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    from the article:

    'Biceps

    The bicep curl is the best single-joint exercise for isolating the bicep muscle. Located on the front part of the upper arm, the bicep is used to flex the lower arm around the elbow joint. Performing a multi-joint movement like a chin, pull-up, seated row, bent over row or lat pulldown soon after doing the bicep curl allows your athletes to use their upper back to exhaust their biceps even further.'
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    If I may:
    You may want to pre-exhaust your lats with over hand pull downs and THEN do some chin ups up the stongest grip ( palms facing you).
    Or you can stop being a ***** and do some serious fucking chins !!!
    Hand position : palms facing you, shoulder with is the MAX and wider will stress your wrists for no reason, wider grips does NOT means wider lats, the wider grip DECREASES the Range of motion, you can see this by straighening your arm over your head and then making the span wider, you will notice that the wider the LESS range of motion.
    ADD SOME FUCKING WEIGHT !!!
    If you can pump out 20 full reps with your bodyweight, its time to ADD some weight by the use of a chin/dip belt, start of with 10 lbs and work form there, add weight everyworkout till you are doing 6 reps min and 8 reps max, when you get to that point, then you will add weight ONLY when you can do that 9th rep and then only 5 lbs .
    GOT THAT SOLIDER ????!!!!!!
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    if you want to avoid shoulder problems - do your chins from rings and not a bar. It does not allow for wider grips (which is often the cause of people damaging their shoulders).

    check out this site for more info - you don't need to buy the product, but you can read up on the benefits:

    http://www.ringtraining.com/
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    wow good info guys. I appreciate everything
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    I just do lat rows. Works the same muscles, with a bit more emphasis on the lats, and it's a weighted exercise, so the resistance can continually increase.
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    Grease the groove.

    The answer 'how do I get better at chins' is DO MORE CHIN UPs


    And Ronin69 has beat down the correct so hard I think he may have killed it :D
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