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    Hojojutsu

    Hey there!

    Okay, I thought my sensei was bullshitting me on this one, but...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoj%C5%8Djutsu

    Haha, awesome. Does anyone actually do this?

    Maybe I shouldn't mouth off at sensei quite so much any more... ;)

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    Its wiki. I'm taking that with a whole lot of salt. Maybe one of the karateka fanatics on here will know something.

    You shouldn't piss of your sensei anyway.

    edit; because they're usually heartless and have odd powers that make you run for long amounts of time.
    Last edited by syberia; 7/25/2010 6:04am at .


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    True! Oh I would not want to actually piss him off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Does anyone actually do this?
    Short answer: No. But that kinda depends on your definition of "do..."

    It appears every now and then in Bujinkan material, but I've never seen it done with an emphasis on traditional methods. Generally it's "Here's how to hogtie someone" for half the seminar, and then they move on to more modern methods of ad hoc restraint that probably shouldn't be discussed because the only people using them are the kinds of criminals they make movies and TV proceduals about...

    There is rumor that some simple methods of tying are still taught to Japanese police, but I don't know how true that is. Also, it may appear in some koryu jujutsu syallabi, but don't make me name them off the top of my head. I'd have to dig into my notes... In any event, Hojojutsu proper is usually considered a dying art.

    On the other hand, a few minutes with google and "hojojutsu" will inevitably lead you into some very kinky websites about a related Japanese S&M method.

    But I suspect you may get some other posters all too willing to explain more about that to you.

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    Thank you! That was edifying.

    Oh, I'm familiar with shibari. :ohyeah:

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    I try to be helpful.

    Unfortunatly, when the answer involves Booj, I'm not sure how helpful it really is...

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    Donn Draeger did a wonderful three volume set on the progressive development of Japanese martial arts. The modern cognate of Hojo-jutsu was practiced into the 1960's by the Japanese National Police, and was used for prisoner control.

    I suggest actually buying Mr. Draeger's series on the martial arts and ways of Japan. Volume One is how things got started as combat skills, bujutsu, and has great definitional structure. Volume Two is on the modification of traditional military skills into a path of personal development, known under the umbrella category of budo. And Volume Three is on the modern cognates of both the schools of traditional military skills, and the schools of budo.

    If people really "got" his three volumes into their heads, and clarified on the historical development, the societal changes that were taking place, and the definitions he translates, so much confusion and so much "what it means to me" writing would be eliminated. Some of this will always be there, but a lot of the figurative smoke and lost years in error would be reduced, allowing more people to move toward strength of action and development.

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    Thanks, I'll take a look sometime!

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    One Newbietown thread per member please. This thread should have been started in the Japanese Martial Arts forum.

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    Oh, sorry! Should I repost it or have it moved somehow?

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