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    Best way to solidify your disdain and prove your point is to go to a kyokushin dojo and ask them to spar, both their regular kumite and with head strikes with gloves. Otherwise shut the **** up.
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    What does that prove? Of course they can beat my ass in their Kumite, I've never spent any real time in a striking martial art. I'm making my opinion based on what I have witnessed. The fact that I would get my ass handed to me by an Kyokushin karateka in Kyokushin rules is obvious.


    I'm talking about it's effectiveness shown by this video, I would now be much more likely to learn how to Box, or Kickbox/thai box, than spend my time learning Kyokushin in order to learn how to strike.

    BTW, thank you for that second video, I've been looking for this video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patio87 View Post
    I make perfect sense, what part of what I just mentioned made no sense to you?
    ONE VIDEO MADE YOU LOSE RESPECT. That's what makes no sense. I'm sorry but, not every BB in the world can be as good as your expectations.

    I'm watching an actual black belt Kyokushin karateka flail around like a idiot in an actual fight. I think it's pathetic.
    I think your cheerleading is pathetic. YMAS is for Style vs Style bullshit not the style TMA forums.


    I respect Shotokan because of the explosiveness, I think this gives them a real advantage, especially with their punching, which is going to be your main tool in an actual fight(restricting pants, etc.).
    So, you respect this?
    YouTube- Shotokan Kumite

    2nd Dan uh oh I must not respect any Shotokahn. Guys flailing, turning his back, screaming and running.

    No No, don't argue you set the criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    ONE VIDEO MADE YOU LOSE RESPECT. That's what makes no sense. I'm sorry but, not every BB in the world can be as good as your expectations.


    I think your cheerleading is pathetic. YMAS is for Style vs Style bullshit not the style TMA forums.



    So, you respect this?
    YouTube- Shotokan Kumite

    2nd Dan uh oh I must not respect any Shotokahn. Guys flailing, turning his back, screaming and running.

    No No, don't argue you set the criteria.

    What am I watching here, Shotokan for senior citizens, lmao.

    Any way you're right, It's stupid for me to base such a drastic opinion of such a bad ass martial art on a single video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patio87 View Post
    The boxing example makes no sense, the boxers are actually KNOCKING people out.
    Really? I see boxers in that video BEING knocked out. *sounds the gong of enlightenment*

    BJJ is specifically grappling, and they dominate in it. How does showing two white belts compare with a Black Belt Kyokushin flailing around?
    And what does Kyokushin dominate? (Hint: it was mentioned in the thread.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by patio87 View Post
    A Judoka at green belt level would have dumped either of them on their heads with the multiple useless lock ups and clinches, either knocking them out there or obviously taking them out on the ground.
    If you know about a green belt judoist who can kick Matsui's ass, let us know, asap.

    This clip is a friendly sparring session between Taikiken and Kyokushin practitioneers. Both schools are related as Sakai and Oyama were friends back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patio87 View Post
    What am I watching here, Shotokan for senior citizens, lmao.
    Does it matter? You do know the story behind the OLD video you posted right? His actions make perfect sense to me.

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    DCS helped save you from further silliness.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 8/01/2010 10:44am at .

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    Quote Originally Posted by patio87 View Post
    I make perfect sense, what part of what I just mentioned made no sense to you? I'm watching an actual black belt Kyokushin karateka flail around like a idiot in an actual fight. I think it's pathetic.

    I respect Shotokan because of the explosiveness, I think this gives them a real advantage, especially with their punching, which is going to be your main tool in an actual fight(restricting pants, etc.).
    Video of you fighting please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCS View Post
    If you know about a green belt judoist who can kick Matsui's ass, let us know, asap.

    This clip is a friendly sparring session between Taikiken and Kyokushin practitioneers. Both schools are related as Sakai and Oyama were friends back in the day.
    Didn't look very friendly to me, lol. Anyway thanks for the background.

    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Does it matter? You do know the story behind the OLD video you posted right? His actions make perfect sense to me.

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    DCS helped save you from further silliness.

    I can't PM you, but you mentioned this thread needs to be in YMAS, and you already gave me an infraction, can you move it to YMAS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless View Post
    Video of you fighting please.

    YouTube- Athens 2004 - Judo - Inoue - Uchimata

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    Trollshido please.

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