I don't see what the issue is. All I stated was that these were two incidents involving women where they had been abused and sought help from us and my anger over their victimization.
You are their saviour and hero.
It's not the first time women have swooned for you is it?
First situation: it's always good idea first thing, to assess people's emotional baggage and history with violence, since it's often (I'd say MOST often) a factor in self-defense classes; and so it should make a difference in your approach, as they're going to need to deal with it (compared to someone who's never been attacked or threatened).
Originally Posted by Alucard619
First of all, if someone's been traumatized, you should be working with a SHRINK, since the student may need treatment for Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, and otherwise the training can make it worse by aggravating the trauma in this way. Just like a personal trainer should work with a physician for safety-assessment an a client who's had an injury, your school should get a psychologist's assessment on whether it's safe for the student to be in a self-defense class-- as well as possible precautions regarding their emotional state that you should know about.
Likewise, inform students that it's ok to feel and experience fear and panic, especially if they've been in a stressful situation before: and in fact it's normal and NECESSARY to feel, re-experience and re-interpret their fear and other feelings, in order to change their reaction-pattern; explain to students-- both men and women-- that panic and related stress is just the brain's natural reaction that happens when a person isn't schooled and experienced in handling a particular threatening situation, and so it's nothing to be ashamed of-- only understood and worked through; likewise, emotional "flashbacks" are normal as well to painful incidents of a similar situation.
Tell them that if the practice becomes emotionally painful, that they shouldn't ignore the feelings, try to be a hero or try to "tough it out--" but just stop and take it slower, building up the intensity gradually until they get used to it. Always tell them there's no shame in stopping or tapping, it's about IMPROVING not proving; they'll get it eventually if they just learn to relax and work through it, accepting and adjusting to the feelings instead of fighting or ignoring them.
(I'd even say that the #1 reason most students drop out, is because of emotional stress and sense of humiliation, since they figure they already have enough of that in their lives without paying for it; and so they end up joining some worthless Bullshido-class like aikido or tai-chi for that reason alone. So a good instructor should monitor emotional stress-levels in a student, not take the brick-thick attitude of "if you can't take the heat, get outta the dojo" which is reasponsible all the bullies and psycho's in martial arts.)
Second situation: she should notify the police IMMEDIATELY, and have her get a restraining-order, as well as some gun-training and a permit, and work with the police for security-precautions, never be alone until it's over etc. Likewise, sometimes women are the abusers themselves, and cry wolf; this might even be a REASON why she hasn't informed police already.
Do NOT get involved personally, it's a tarbaby that even police didn't like to mess with until domestic-violence laws forced them to do so; so let the police handle it, it's their job. Also have her tell her lawyer and let him handle it as well, since often cops are domestic-abusers who sympathize with the man. Likewise, if possible, have her contact a security-firm in order to make sure she has proper precautions in place for the situation.
If she's thinking that she can handle an enraged, unstable and potentially violent man by herself with just her bare hands and a few private lessons, she clearly has an unrealistic view which should be corrected first thing before taking any classes.
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You tell a lot of stories, bro.
Originally Posted by Alucard619
These last two show a lot of promise in the characterization department. In a few brief lines, you sketched out a fairly convincing portrait of two women undergoing emotional distress. It shows a great deal of observational skill. You'll be a hit in the creative writing course at the community college one day.
Here's a tip, sit next to the cutest girl in the class. You might get lucky.
BTW: On the off chance you are telling the truth this time ("Wolf? Yeah, right..."), you're in over your head. Way over, kid.
It is of the opinion of Mr. Mike Sorrentino that your story is less interesting than his well-toned abdominal muscles.
This is written pretty funny. It sounds like they sought help over your anger.
Originally Posted by Alucard619
Which is why he needs a good creative writing course.
His imagination is fantastic, but he needs a good editor.
Sorry I am late. Won't stay long. Snooki was arrested for drunken disorderly conduct in Seaside today (only a few miles from me...sleaziest beach in NJ).
The women in your story do not need martial arts training right now, they need serious professional assistance from trained experts in domestic violence and abuse support, particularly the mother.
National Domestic Violence Hotline
1.800.799.SAFE (7233) 1.800.787.3224 (TTY)
Anonymous & Confidential Help 24/7
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Online Resource Center on Violence Against Women
In coming Non Sequitor: The greatest rock and roll show I've ever seen was a bar band on the Jersey shore. They closed a set with the most awesome rendition of Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People." I have no idea what their name was. But they had the passion.
Originally Posted by W. Rabbit
Nothing to see here. Please continue with you day, citizen.
this is your first problem.
Originally Posted by Alutard619
your inability to see past you and your minor and petty involvement in "the situation" and your exploitation of "the situation" in a feeble attempt to garner some small measure of Bullshido credibility. Quit making up stories and using other people as set-pieces in your tales of grandeur.
If this really did happen you did her and "MASTER" a great disservice.
But of course, you are essentially a child with no concept of personal responsibility.
And your further abuse of these women by using them as props in your story and how you, and only you, took the time to see them as the poor fragile little lambs they truly are and how you and only you shepherded them to your "master", essentially doing nothing but passing them off to someone else ill-equipped to deal with "the situation". I am sure she walked into the kwoon with the false expectation that she would be met with a competent practitioner only to have you foisted upon her. Great.
All I stated was that these were two incidents involving women where they had been abused and sought help from us
White Knight tag for Alutard619, plz
Yes, you tale was positively dripping with righteous indignation.
and my anger over their victimization.
Instead of showing her your shitty ineffectual compliant choke escapes, you could have been finding her a phone number for a Crisis Counselor or a Woman's Firearms class or a Victim's Rights Advocate.
THEN you would have actually been DOING something for her instead of cranking up the mill and creating another falsely delusional student for "Master".
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