Thread: Police grappling (aikido based?)
8/01/2010 12:34pm, #21
And that is not the worst of it. It is really embarasing when you drop on an arm lock and they have some sort of weakness (usually the shoulder) and the whole thing pops out.
When and where and how hard a lock is put on will depend on the situation and it is no perfect science. I have never gotten into trouble if I have been alowed to use force gone tha armlock route and have hurt the guy.
for me after I have given somebody a chance to comply and they dont take it I will go for a restraint. If they fight me at that point their own actions are creating the risk.
From there I will escalate untill I gain control.
you have to realise that I can use force leagaly (under the right conditions). You cannot use force leagaly to stop me.
the not really trying to fight me is the passive resistance removal.
EG. I am working a pub ask you to leave you dont. eventually there will be force used to ensure you leave the premisis.
you are not fighting back but are wrestling with me to escape or stand still.
I am using joint locks and pain compliance to force you to go where I want you to go
Last edited by gregaquaman; 8/01/2010 12:37pm at .
8/01/2010 1:06pm, #22I was wondering if anyone who had been through similar training had any comments on its usefulness/realism in their experience.
I will add, though, that most places I've been at do teach you more than just that gooseneck stuff. Usually they teach you some "self defense" stuff like throwing knees and elbows from close quarters too. Also, last place I was at instituted a "ground survival" class that taught basic escapes from mount and how to get back to your feet. And that stuff was all pretty good, for what it was.
8/02/2010 12:09am, #23
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8/02/2010 6:14am, #24
Find out for yourself, though, and keep an open mind. I'm no expert and also come from a Corrections background where most uses of force involve several officers on one offender, which usually turns into a pile on. Experiences may vary. So, listen to your instructors and other people in the specific area of LE you are going into.
8/05/2010 2:04am, #25
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Taser-jitsu seems to be the LEO choice these days. "Don't you think about jaywalking, gramps!" BZZZZZZZTTTTTTT. Even given the isolated deaths, it's still safer than Osoto-ing somebody's brains all over the sidewalk.
8/06/2010 4:01am, #26