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    Well.. time limit refers to your skill in finishing a fight quickly... and uh... a no time limit refers to fighting a martial opponent full out? I have no idea, like I said "I always figured..." I really have no definite answer, just giving out ideas.

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    bunyip,

    I could be completely wrong, and if I was talking to my wife, I know I would be, but I think the no time limit comes into play if there is no winner by KO or points at the end of 6 rounds. I think you just keep fighting two minute rounds until someone wins. I don't know if they still do points anymore, but when I was watching the semis and the finals, scoring a point was nearly impossible. So as long as both fighters were on their feet and able to answer the bell, they kept fighting. Some body ask Whiteshark, he should know this...being a Chicago boy and a Shidokan man as well.

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    hey whiteshark, you live in chicago? Me too!! I'm actually going over the gym that shonie carter teaches at on thursday. Let me know what's up, maybe we can workout together sometime.

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    Kail - that would make sense, but the rules also talk about judges' decisions, so I think that's not the case. I guess we'll have to wait for whiteshark...
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    You guys are kidding, right? I've watched Shidokan on ESPN twice and spent most of it laughing at the subterranean skill level and half-assed conditioning being showcased. Honestly, most of the guys I watched in Shidokan would get killed in a small-promotion MMA show. Especially the grappling part, I've seen better ground-fighting at a Little League practice. Maybe Shidokan wasn't always like that, but boy, the two shows I caught stunk pretty bad.

    It is better than watching guys in gis and mullets breaking boards, I give it that. . .
    "I had once talked to Billy Conn, the boxer, about professionals versus amateurs - specifically street fighters. One had always heard rumors of champions being taken out by back-alley fighters. Conn was scornful. "Aw, it's like hitting a girl," he said. "They're nothing."


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    ?where is whiteshark

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    I live in Atlanta not Chicago but I train with the current lightweight World Shidokan Champion Richard Trammell. www.Shidokan-Atlanta.com that's my gym

    Vargas is half right. Because Shidokan is fairly new and a smaller venue there have been some lame fights but that was a couple years ago the last few events have been excellent. Also there is a higher degree of technical skill in the light and middle weight classes IMHO. This is due(i think) to bigger paychecks being available to heavyweights in other organizations.

    Rules - (I Think) NO TIME LIMIT refers to time on the ground all they mean is that they don't stand you up for inactivity. But because it is 2/3 a striking event many of the fighters want to stand up.

    Also - The US Open for Light and Middle weight will be held here in Atlanta in June. My gym is the hosting dojo it would be really cool if some of you guys could make it.
    Last edited by WhiteShark; 2/25/2004 9:03am at .

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    whitey----- are you allowed to gnp?

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    No.
    There is no striking allowed on the ground. But I have seen KOs in the mma rounds! Like I said a lot of the fighters like to stand-up. And 5oz gloves are evil on people that know how to strike.

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    Kail --> 'I could be completely wrong, and if I was talking to my wife, I know I would be'

    Classic

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