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  1. PDA is offline
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    (also forgot kelp and Ginko in some of my Green teas)
    Thanks for the advise, I dont think poisoning is a possibility as from what i have read it is typically associated with huge excess of one particular vitamin, i take a normal does of many different ones and pay attention to duplication in the substance of them.
    I am not and will never be on roids, not my thing, The milk thistle is to support my liver generally, i did previously give it a hammering with alcohol, likely no more than anybody else that drinks socially and can hamdle their drink well, but i like spirits which do kick the crap out of your liver so i like to help it out now, particularly as im taking allot of vitamins which can also cause liver problems.
    Im now an occasional drinker.
    Ginseng may be a little snake oily but i know plenty of people that use it and say its good and nothing bad comes from taking it so i may as well carry on just in case they are correct.

    I take Myoplex carb sense shakes and bars.

    So is there anything else anybody is taking for any reason that has helped them recover/repair?
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    That's not really bad, he's just taking a bunch of vitamins.

    Of course you should have a balanced diet, but it doesen't cover everything. Multi's are good, but some things compete for absorption, so it's good to space things out.


    Made into a litst like in the OP, it looks like a lot, but really I do the same kind of and it's just a few pills with water a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr P View Post
    So is there anything else anybody is taking for any reason that has helped them recover/repair?

    Aside from eating enough calories and getting enough sleep, which is the first step:
    Creatine, Beta Alanine, Leucine, and Glutamine. I take them all to help recover.
    I take Calcium/D/Magnesium also, don't drink milk much anymore, and I don't need my hips breaking when I'm 60. Strong bones all the way.
    Extra Vitamin D, Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM, Iron(I'm deficient, most men shouldn't take it), and Zinc(most athletes are deficient in Zinc)

    I also am going to run through a bottle of Tribulus and MACA for a month. They are supposed to help with your...ummm..manliness.
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    Anything else you take thats good

    And they do look allot when listed but when you take them they are only a hand full , couple of mouth full of water and they are down.

    So you think perhaps i should stagger them through the day rather than take them all at the same time?
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    Well timing and what you eat/don't eat with it is important. I think you need to take most supplements with food for better absorption.

    Morning: Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM, Iron Complex

    Afternoon: GNC Mega Men Mutli

    Evening: Cal/Mag/D

    Night: Iron, Zinc, Vit D

    PWO: Creatine, Beta Alanine, Glutamine

    Now I try not to take them with any other calcium (except when I take my calcium supp of course), as I read it hinders absorption of a few things. I also spread them out just because having a ton of things in your stomach can cause discomfort. Lastly, hopefully it helps them not compete for absorption wioth each other.
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    Steroids or supplements? You decide.

    By the way I'm pretty content with the way my body is looking and feeling right now. I know as a fact I'm getting over the daily recommended amounts of vitamins and minerals naturally, without any supplements and I'm a bit skeptical about interfering with that when it's looking good. In all honesty can someone point out a reason to use them besides to get your body looking like it's in tip top shape? I'm not a hypocrite, to define myself here I'm not going to say this then go buy some but if there is a reason I should be using them, then I will.

    Obviously I'm still new at all this but I've been working on my diet for 3 or 4 months to see what's working for my body and as said before- I'm content. Although you can see my top six abs pretty plainly there still is a layer of fat (skin?) even though I hate to say it and most def a layer of fat on the bottom two that I'm trying to get off by sprinting/jogging every day.

    Hah, I don't even though if I'm going to be any good yet but I enjoy taking good care of myself. Sorry to ramble but just eat good and your body will thank you in amazing ways. And yes take them before you eat each meal (which worked out for me because I was using Opti-men and L-Arginine).

    Just my 2 cents on the issue at hand.
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    I did some research into vitamins and supplements over ten years ago so take this with a grain of salt. One thing I learned during that time is that if your taking vitamins that are chemically derived rather than from actual food, your body does not absorb them as readily as food based supplements. In fact, your body passes as much as 70% of chemically derived vitamins versus absorbing more than 60% of food based supplements.
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    Vitamins are never going to replace a good diet but they do support a good diet.
    Partiularly with things like PH levels and regulating the acid in your blood or adding additional things like calcium and magnesium which gets used by the body to increase your PH levels when there is too much acid in your blood. (ive recently added these thanks to LIGUY1.)
    I dont think Glucosamine is available in anything we eat, i may be wrong but im pretty sure thats the case and Glucosamine is really helpfull for joints.

    @ESVABURNOUT, Try L Cartnine, it moves fat to the outside of cells where it can be burned easier, does some other good stuff too, google it when you get a minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr P View Post
    Vitamins are never going to replace a good diet but they do support a good diet.
    Partiularly with things like PH levels and regulating the acid in your blood or adding additional things like calcium and magnesium which gets used by the body to increase your PH levels when there is too much acid in your blood. (ive recently added these thanks to LIGUY1.)
    I dont think Glucosamine is available in anything we eat, i may be wrong but im pretty sure thats the case and Glucosamine is really helpfull for joints.

    @ESVABURNOUT, Try L Cartnine, it moves fat to the outside of cells where it can be burned easier, does some other good stuff too, google it when you get a minute.
    I think you need to reread and try to comprehend more next time. L Carnitine is the biologically active part of Carnitine. It's role is to move fats from the cytosol (fluid in cells) to the mitochonria (Still in the cell) for use as energy. It doesn't move it outside the cells, and it doesn't make it easier to burn. More carnitine is simply....more.

    As far as all your supplements for recovery, I'm doing martial arts for 2 hours twice a week, and two a day triathlon workouts 6 out of 7 days. I recover just fine, and take no supplementation. (I'm 43, and never had a serious injury either). Right now I'm putting in between 15-20 training hours a week.

    I really think that about all you are doing with your supplements is giving yourself really expensive urine, but if it makes you happy, gobble that money down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr P View Post
    particularly as im taking allot of vitamins which can also cause liver problems.

    Ginseng may be a little snake oily but i know plenty of people that use it and say its good and nothing bad comes from taking it so i may as well carry on just in case they are correct.
    So...you're taking supplements "just in case" they might work, and you're taking supplements to counteract the liver effects of other supplements?

    And you don't see anything wrong here?

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