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    Quote Originally Posted by csharp.negative View Post
    If it doesn't convince you after you've tried it, then that's on you. But if a guy you tussle with swears by it (and you lose, or admit that he hits HARD and fights WELL), you have no right to say it didn't help him. Same with someone that suffers from x, y, and z health issues. You can't tell someone that it didn't help them, or that it was "all psychological," because the proof is in the pudding. Acupuncture is being added to a LOT of hospitals around the United States as alternate therapies.
    Why are you trying to start an argument? Your post has nothing to do with the OP. I think you read the other thread and came here all angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Why are you trying to start an argument? Your post has nothing to do with the OP. I think you read the other thread and came here all angry.
    He asked what our thoughts on qigong and neigong are, and I gave my views. No intentions of being angry. Why are you derailing the thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by csharp.negative View Post
    He asked what our thoughts on qigong and neigong are, and I gave my views. No intentions of being angry. Why are you derailing the thread?
    This is what he asked
    So, what do you think? Are Qigong and Neigong important to martial arts practice?
    Nothing in your post adresses this question.

    How do you conceptualize these concepts; for example, do you see it as ancient nomenclature for things that can be correlated/explained with modern physiology or medicine?
    Nothing in your posts answers this question.

    Or do you view them as metaphysical, objectively incorrect practices.
    Nothing in your post answers this question.

    If you do believe in their worth, how much time/focus do you place on these things?
    Nothing in your post answers these questions.

    So, your entire posts is a derail.
    Quote Originally Posted by csharp.negative View Post
    If it doesn't convince you after you've tried it, then that's on you. But if a guy you tussle with swears by it (and you lose, or admit that he hits HARD and fights WELL), you have no right to say it didn't help him. Same with someone that suffers from x, y, and z health issues. You can't tell someone that it didn't help them, or that it was "all psychological," because the proof is in the pudding. Acupuncture is being added to a LOT of hospitals around the United States as alternate therapies.
    As staff my job is to stop your derail before it starts.
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    Oh and since you'll inevitably complain:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117840

    Your post reads like it came after perusing the above thread, where Acupuncture and other CMA was called into question.

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    Point of order what is the relationship of qigong and neigong to acupuncture?

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    Depends on the teacher. Basically, they follow the same meridians and chi/breathing belief systems. Acupuncture used needles instead of stretching and breathing exercises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Depends on the teacher. Basically, they follow the same meridians and chi/breathing belief systems. Acupuncture used needles instead of stretching and breathing exercises.
    Yep.
    I've heard the phrase
    "Qigong is acupuncture you do from inside to out, herbs are acupuncture you eat and drink." or similar a few times.

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    Any evidence that acupuncture works on anything other than pain management?

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    You're derailing a derail, and asking for evidence, in trollshido...
















    ...so my answer is, "Why yes; sticking needles in people can also increase pain, and can in fact be quite injurious."

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    Acupuncture works, we use it here in the surgery department instead of anesthesia sometimes.

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