Posted On:7/30/2010 5:42pm
Originally Posted by helmutlvx
None of you other guys better try turning this quote into a bitch-fest because he's right.
He's right and y'all know it.
You telling anyone to be quiet is hilarious. The rest of you calm the **** down and address the question. Don't get goaded into the Iron Skill argument. It is long dead and will lead to a huge derail.
Originally Posted by doofaloofa
Posted On:7/30/2010 9:15pm
to answer the question directly...there is nothing wrong with the training (as I said before) But it must, repeat must, be under proper instruction and supervision. Otherwise, yes ....DAMAGE. There really is no conversation, do it right.... reap rewards, do it wrong .... suffer the consequences. As a student trying to learn, the simple advice is that if it hurts , you are only learning pain. If it progressively gets harder but does not cause ill effects it may very well be being taught correctly. Pain only teaches you what you are doing wrong, it is a bad teacher as it never shows you how to do it right. Slow steady progression from light contact and correct form straight throu to heavy contact correct form, keep a commonality CORRECT FORM.
Posted On:7/30/2010 9:34pm
it is fake, surely you understand this as XINGYI is listed as your style. When you practise the consolidated explosion techniques that make your style formidable, surely you must release the energy onto/into something to keep from createing damage due to hyper-extension. Practised over and over the release must be given as contact to something other then air and inadvertantly causes a korte/iron conditioning of some sort.
Posted On:8/01/2010 4:36am
Style: Shito-Ryu Karate, Fencing
Thanks for the replies all.
Everyone seems to be big on the bag thing, I don't see how hitting a sand filled leather bag is much different from hitting a bean filled bag though.
The whole teacher thing though, yeah definitely gonna go with you all on that. Just a pain in the ass to find anyone that does stuff like that here in Chattanooga.
I found a few videos on Iron Palm and watched them and it just seems rather limited in its scope. The whole tradition seems built around bitch slapping people with an area of the hand that is already pretty immune to damage. Guess I'll take a look at Karates own traditional Makiwara and go from there.
Posted On:8/12/2010 8:47am
Originally Posted by Ryan423
Guess I'll take a look at Karates own traditional Makiwara and go from there.
That would be a good place to start. In this video you can see Machida practicing gyaku zukis on the makiwara at the 2:53 mark http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/5/4/...s-strategy-for
It should be noted, that all the years of training on it, did not prevent a broken hand in the first Rua fight though. Of course that may have been the result of blocking one of Shogun's monster kicks, and not from striking?
Posted On:8/13/2010 2:29am
Style: Kenkojuku Karate, Judo
I do planks and pushups on my 1st two knuckles on a hard surface. If that gets easy you can incline yourself for more weight and jump an inch off the floor with each pushup.
Unless you plan on smashing through huge blocks of ice, baseball bats, or rocks, you don't need more IMO. You're still going to hurt yourself if you punch the top of someone's head (or their teeth), so you might as well just work on your punching technique instead and be more accurate.
Originally Posted by MMAMickey
What is it with TMA guys and conditioning hands that they're never gonna use..
Because we don't want to be fairies that wear handwraps and 16 oz gloves just to hit pads/bags!
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