Chainpunch and I just finished up a long argument on things that we will probably never see eye to eye on, and I just want to say this is one of the best written threads I've ever seen in newbietown. In all seriousness, I think it, or a slightly modified version of it, should be a sticky and required reading not just for wing chun people but anyone new to this forum, especially if they come from a traditional martial arts background.
Originally Posted by chainpunch
Ive lost all respect for you.. i was told you stole that big word use used earlier...Not cool... So not only are you a meany, but your a big word stealer as well...Thats a horrible combination :5censored
Yes, you were told by that link I provided. Just like you stole the words you are now typing from your parents, school teachers and the dictionary.
lol ok...ill accept your word stealing...ive been practicing, ready ? I found your earlier comments to be vexing, and was perturbed by some of your posts..However over time, i was able to appreciate what you had to say and forgive you for your shortcomings...
Dont thank me for the new words, just pay it forward
OP, seriously, in retrospect I'm sorry to have jumped on you, it's really not the proper setting. Just so you understand, I wasn't criticizing you for how you type, but for the content of what you said and its implications. I don't care how you type as long as it doesn't hurt my eyes.
Now, understand I'm saying this without intent to insult you, but the fact you think the school/material is good and especially that you feel that you're learning from the "best of the best" is meaningless because you haven't seen them spar for yourself using the material you're learning.
For all I know they could be God's gift to Kung Fu, but I think it's pretty foolish to sign up for lessons without seeing the finished product (I know there's no definitive end, but you get what I mean). I'm sure you wouldn't buy a house without seeing it first...
When I first started Judo I had my doubts about my own school because of the somewhat unstructured approach to learning. Newbies were just tossed into learning whatever everyone else was doing instead of starting from the basics and progressing in a linear manner, so I was lost as hell for the first month or two. What sold me on continuing was that every class I could watch the people who had been there awhile sparring and displaying good skills.
I would ask your instructor politely to observe the sparring class a couple of times at least. See if a) it actually looks like a fight b) the skills you practice in class are coming out in sparring.
In any case, there's no sense in trying to defend your style on the whole (even more so when you're a newbie in it) as style names are just general labels; it's how your club trains that really matters. Why don't you take us through a typical class from beginning to end? What do you specifically spend your time doing? What prior martial arts experience do you have in order to base your judgements on?
Last edited by maofas; 7/16/2010 11:08pm at .
Ok. I have never seen sifu spar. I have heard stories about him from other students... I don't think his sparing would have anything do with his ability to teach thou...
It's one thing to pass on knowledge. It's another to apply it in a fight... I no guys who no everything there is to no about the human body, work out wise...they look like shyt but there's no doubting they no what the hell there talking about. With that being said, I've heard from other students that Sifu can handle his biz.
As for class, forms, bag work an the standard wt stuff. I have 4 years of another style so I'm not a virgin when it comes to what should an shouldn't be going on in class
I don't think there's really a such thing as the best of the best. There are a lot of great teachers out there in many different styles. I chose wt and am happy with that choice.
Hi there, I'd like to sell you a house. No that's alright, you don't need to see it, I'll just refer you to these other guys who have seen it (or maybe have met other people who have seen it), who will tell you how great it is.
Originally Posted by Quanshuforum
4 years in another style? Could you possibly be more vague?
And your instructor's ability to fight absolutely has something to do with his ability to pass on knowledge of fighting. He doesn't need to be the greatest fighter in the world, but he does need to be a proficient fighter. How good could a math teacher be if they couldn't perform the computations they were teaching you how to do?
Wow, you really aren't a very curious-minded or questioning person are you?
Sounds like my old wing tsun class. A typical wing tsun school, nothing new except you get more attention from sifu.
Is "Sifu" a boy's name or a girl's?
What style did you train in previously? Have you seen any sparring at all, if not your instructor's? If so, what does it look like?
Same here. OP, ask your sifu if you can spar or when they spar. I'm not sure how wt is structured nowadays but when i trained it sparring was hard to come by. It's well worth doing.
Originally Posted by hairy