His knee(s) came off the ground.
OK - enough already for me on overanalyzing an overly defensive match.
Who won? WHO CARES...... YAWN ........
I honestly didn't expect it to get this big.
The bottom line seems to be that my buddy needs to be more aggressive in his matches regardless of whether he should or should not have won this one.
There were no hooks in, so no back points. Turtle isn't a guard, so you're not "passing" it to side control. But that all assumes IBJJF rules, and we all know NAGA used some bastardized version of the real rules.
According to the NAGA rules page they use IBJJF for their GI point system, they just allow a wider range of techniques (Bicep slicers, etc...) at lower belt ranks.
I find it odd that you aren't penalized more harshly for giving up side control. But if that's the rules, then that's the rules.
Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless
I'm pretty sure you can't be put on your ass without your knees coming off the ground.
The point is, he was turtled (both knees on the ground) when the move started.
You are really grasping at straws now.
A big man can admit when they are wrong.
"Yes, I am smarter than your are"
Originally Posted by Kintanon
Could be time to amend that line.
I could write a big post about that, but suffice it to say I am still smarter than you and most of the rest of humanity. Intelligence doesn't automatically beget knowledge and the smartest people know where to find the answers when they don't know something already.
Originally Posted by henno
So...how many months you been a bluebelt now or have you even made it that far?
Points for takedown then side control, as that was the first position that he established.
Last edited by Zapruder; 7/27/2010 5:01pm at .
Originally Posted by OnceLost
Originally Posted by It is Fake
Originally Posted by henno
First of all, asshole, I never said you were wrong. We're discussing a point of view. I said I could see it going both ways. The issue here isn't right or wrong, we're discussing points of view.
If white pants drove black pants into the ground then your point would be more valid. Instead bottom player decided to try a maneuver, it failed. He got thrown down. Now like it or dislike it that's up to you. I think the ref saw something and wanted to award points. Problem was that the ref had no idea what he saw and gave the points he thought he should give. The ref was an idiot.
These are the same stupid rules and reffing where I did a flying armbar, the guy pulled his arm out and was given points for passing guard. :dontknow: Same stupid rules where I went for an O goshi and I got stuffed so I rolled to a kneebar and he was given points for a takedown.
Now you have a point of view and I have a point of view. I see your point of view and have acknowledged it. You on the other hand have yet to acknowledge that my point of view has any validity. So you fucking hypocrite why don't you look in the fucking mirror before you preach "A big man can admit when they are wrong".