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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas View Post
    That's because you're overtraining the squat and deadlift. Do one or the other, not both, every time you train. The deadlift especially is a very taxing lift on the CNS.
    I squat and deadlift every other session, is that a problem?

    Read: Day A I squat and deadlift.
    Day B I squat.

    Is that a problem? (Obviously this isn't my whole routine)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickapoo View Post
    I squat and deadlift every other session, is that a problem?

    Read: Day A I squat and deadlift.
    Day B I squat.

    Is that a problem? (Obviously this isn't my whole routine)
    Are you following Stronglifts? That's a bit more managable.
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    I'm still debating which exercise is better for me (squat or deadlift) for fighting sports, as when I go back to uni in a month or so I'll have access to a power rack again. I like the lower back strength I'm getting from deadlifts but you don't get the same leg workout as with squats.. I'll probably settle for doing both in an A/B pattern unless anyone has any reasons to the contrary?
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    I'm still debating which exercise is better for me (squat or deadlift) for fighting sports, as when I go back to uni in a month or so I'll have access to a power rack again. I like the lower back strength I'm getting from deadlifts but you don't get the same leg workout as with squats.. I'll probably settle for doing both in an A/B pattern unless anyone has any reasons to the contrary?
    I can't think of a reason for you NOT to deadlift. I'm not sure what you mean by 'fighting sports', since your style field lists all kinds. I would imagine a strong back would help in judo/Greco-Roman and a good squat would help you in freestyle, but that's all I can think of.
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    I figured doing both would be the way forward. I'm pretty sure the extra back strength helps alot with striking
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    Quote Originally Posted by truepwrz View Post
    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/ma...rength-467240/ how does this one sound? I heard good news about it.
    Starting Strength is a good program, but the one listed there is a mutant version. You don't do bent over rows with Starting Strength, and I think the power cleans are run 5x3.

    You can also do Stronglifts 5x5.

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    Thankyou sir.. very very much. I would +rep you again but apparently that means I have a crush on you.
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    I am going to start a running/biking routine, would squats hurt my recovery time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    I'm still debating which exercise is better for me (squat or deadlift) for fighting sports, as when I go back to uni in a month or so I'll have access to a power rack again. I like the lower back strength I'm getting from deadlifts but you don't get the same leg workout as with squats.. I'll probably settle for doing both in an A/B pattern unless anyone has any reasons to the contrary?
    My theory: For BJJ, deadlift is more important, but squat is useful, depending on your style. For Judo both squat and deadlift are equally important.

    And don't forget speed/power. For an athlete, this is more important than the max lift you manage to grind out at tortoise speed. Unless you are a powerlifter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Lamb View Post
    My theory: For BJJ, deadlift is more important, but squat is useful, depending on your style. For Judo both squat and deadlift are equally important.

    And don't forget speed/power. For an athlete, this is more important than the max lift you manage to grind out at tortoise speed. Unless you are a powerlifter.
    Maximal strength is a quality of power generation though. Development of maximal strength will definitely result in improvement of power.

    I think MMAMickey's philosophy is developing sport specific power generation via skills training, but I'd have to let him speak on his own behalf.
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