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  1. eleetness151 is offline

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    I used trazidone(not sure on spelling) for a year. It worked wonders at first, I was building a tolerance so i only used it when I had to. It's not over the counter so you will need talk to a doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGroinNoKrav View Post
    I will be tired, but my thoughts won't stop running through my head.
    probably already stated in the thread but this was the case with my insomnia as well. i think its different for everyone but i just thought of darkness, had a blank state. good luck.
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    I had that problem too. So would fall asleep while watching T.V. Don't watch any fights try something like financial news. You also can try talk radio.
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    I'm a former insomniac that lapses every so often, but I only lapse when I don't do the things that help me sleep. Maofas' post was full of the good stuff, I have my own self hypnosis thing that I have done since I learnt how to meditate properly that is much easier than the above post on the topic, but might be harder to master without knowing the "quietened mind" of meditation. Here are my steps:

    1. No caffeine after lunch. I'll have a stupid strong coffee at 9 in the morning and on a rare occasion I'll have a coke at lunch, but caffeine after lunch is a major threat to my sleep pattern.

    2. No TV in the bedroom. I keep the bedroom for two things, sleeping and fucking. Turning off the TV in the lounge room, switching off the lights and moving to the bedroom signals to my mind it is nearing time to sleep. Replace your bedside lamp with a warm white lamp, cool white excites the mind (I'm a former electrical lighting specialist).

    3. No watching of sporting contests after dark, this rule is only if you definitely need sleep at any cost. This rule sucks because so many sporting contests go into the evening and if you are like me, you want to watch them. In Australia, UFC Unleashed is aired at 10pm on Thursday free to air, I often don't sleep until 2pm on Friday morning because my system has been excited by the fights. Be prepared to struggle to sleep if you watch sport after dark.

    4. Read, anything, boring or otherwise. Even exciting books tire your mind quickly if your body is tired. Obviously boring books work, but frustration can be detrimental to some people trying to sleep.

    5. Masturbation or sex later in the evening, about half an hour before you want to sleep. It's hard to guage this one, as it can go either way for me, as said by an earlier post. However, I find the second time can release the right endorphins for sleep.

    6. My simplified self hypnosis:
    a) Get comfortable in bed in a dark room, no light is best.
    b) Concentrate on breathing deep, but not so deep as to be uncomfortable.
    c) Maintain a rhythm.
    d) Being, on every exhale, to whisper "sleep" out loud so the word rides the whole breath. It'll sound like "Sssleeeeep".
    e) After a few times say it just with your inside voice.
    f) Sleep.

    You'll find that on the first few inhales your inner monologue starts up again, but is shut down by the conscious "sleep" said out loud on the exhale. It might take a while to get used to it, especially when it begins to work because you can actually feel your brain shutting down for sleep, which is exciting ("hey its working!") and wakes you up a bit. Stick to it, the most times I have had to convince myself to sleep is about 30-40 cycles of telling me to sleep. I can often do it in 15, sometimes less.
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    If I have trouble sleeping I concentrate on the slight tinnitus in my left ear. I've had it for half my life and in a way it's very soothing and helps me clear my head of thoughts.

    Also +10000 to sleeping in a colder room. There's a rare heat wave going on in Finland (last time it was this hot was over 70 years ago) and it makes falling asleep and sleeping deep that much more difficult.
    Curiosity killed the cat. But damn it had a blast.
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    I have no problems sleeping. Sorry :icon_wink:

    I have no problems because I've done a number of things.

    1. De-cluttered my bedroom. Get rid of anything technological from it. watching TV in bed is bad. My wife insists on this, but I usually turn it off as soon as she drops off. Anything that has a low background hum, or emits ambient light is going to be a hindrance to you falling asleep as well. Phone chargers for example, you may not notice it normally but they do hum...

    2. Going to sleep at the same time every night. This is really important. You are teaching your body a routine.

    3. Reading. I read a book for about 15 to 20 minutes when I get into bed. It allows my to effectively shut down those thoughts that would keep me awake if I didn't.

    4. Not drinking caffeine after my evening meal. Simple really, don't take stimulants when you don't want to be stimulated.

    5. Getting my bedroom cold. Really helps me, a cold room with a proper duvet is brilliant for sleeping in. Its a bugger to wake up from in the morning though... It is hard to do in the summer, especially if you need air con to do this as they are loud, but at the moment over here I can do this my just opening the window really wide.

    6. Waking up in the morning naturally. Now this took a while but I now wake up naturally a few minutes before my alarm clock. Again this helps with defining your sleep cycle.

    7. Not really drinking anything after about 9pm. Stops sleep being interrupted by needing to piss in the middle of the night.

    8. No exercise close to when I want to sleep. On Sundays I do sambo and it runs 'til 10pm. I am usually wired after it and have a real problem getting to sleep.
    "Chance favours only the prepared mind."

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    7/14/2010 10:26am

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    Quote Originally Posted by maofas View Post
    Well, I'm not a doctor, but you're taking a hormone that your body naturally produces. Usually your body's natural response to having something it normally produces already in your system is to reduce production over time.

    That being said, if you don't care and it works, I guess you're good-to-go. I assume it can't really harm you since it's something that ought to be floating around in there anyways and it wouldn't be unlike a diabetic taking insulin for the rest of their life.
    I've always had problems sleeping. I used melatonin for a while and it did help me fall and stay asleep. But when I stopped taking it I had a really hard time sleeping for a few days.
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