scorpion crunch... thoughts?

**Zapruder** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 11:35am

Originally Posted by STB'A

there are more than a couple of things i do from my side.

if you're setting this up and they fall over, is it possible to finish it?

You have the body type for this move, so you will be able to hit this from many different positions. If you play any rubber guard at all you can set this up from New York without really having to break the posture too much

**speedycerviche** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 11:42am

"If you play any rubber guard at all you can set this up from New York, without really having to break the posture too much."

LOL what is a "New York" I breifly looked but could not find anything.

**omoplatypus** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 1:05pm

Originally Posted by Zapruder

You have the body type for this move, so you will be able to hit this from many different positions. If you play any rubber guard at all you can set this up from New York without really having to break the posture too much

good to know. the newest grappling coach at my MMA gym is a 10th planet guy.

Originally Posted by speedycerviche

"If you play any rubber guard at all you can set this up from New York, without really having to break the posture too much."

LOL what is a "New York" I breifly looked but could not find anything.

it's part of eddie bravo's curriculum. it's part of his various sub positions such as chill dog, kung fu grip, karate man, and zombie.

^^^this is new york^^^

**Southpaw** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 2:17pm

I've tried this a few times and apparently am too fat to make it work.

**Zapruder** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 2:28pm

New york will look different when you do it though since you are so long, they can posture up and you can still keep it pretty tight.

I would say beware of this technique I have seen MULTIPLE people throw up...that beard would be a giant barf sponge...damn it I am a sympathetic puker with a VERY good imagination...must not talk about it anymore

You can also set this thing up from the flower sweep, when they properly defend your guard will be pretty high and one arm will already be in perfect placement.

**omoplatypus** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 2:40pm

hmmm.... i think i'll fake a flower/pendulum sweep and move to scorpion tonight at practice.

hope i don't get puked on!

**speedycerviche** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 2:47pm

There is a brown belt at my gym that does the scorpion after the person sits up in guard he sits up with them then does it.

"it's part of eddie bravo's curriculum. it's part of his various sub positions such as chill dog, kung fu grip, karate man, and zombie."
"this is new york"

LOL cheers. All these names are hard to follow is this a USA thing or more of just a 10th Planet thing?.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 3:42pm

10th planet thing.

I still have not heard anyone answer where the pressure comes from on this. I tried it on a few guys and they said it isn't something they would tap to. I assume I am not setting up the pressure right.

**CoffeeFan** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 3:45pm

Originally Posted by speedycerviche

LOL cheers. All these names are hard to follow is this a USA thing or more of just a 10th Planet thing?.

The Zombie, New York, Chili dog, etc are a 10th Planet thing.

I actually have not seen this particular move used before with high guard, although I do have a very mean variation of it to finish the triangle choke. It sort of crushes their head like a pimple and tends to give people a massive headaches.

I can see the combination of having your knees squeezed together (thanks to the S grip) and pushing off with your legs creating massive pressure on a persons ribcage and abdominal region. No wonder people puke and get ribs popped. I would imagine that once you see someone setting this up it is a lot easier to avoid.

**Zapruder** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 3:54pm

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

10th planet thing.

I still have not heard anyone answer where the pressure comes from on this. I tried it on a few guys and they said it isn't something they would tap to. I assume I am not setting up the pressure right.

The legs give the pressure the arms hold the position. (the arms help a bit but it is really the legs giving the pressure)

I have only had one guy tap me with this and he was 6'8, and there was NO WAY I wasnt tapping; my ribs would have snapped like match sticks.