scorpion crunch... thoughts?

**joecos** · Posted On: 7/12/2010 6:38pm

Be very careful with that one, I had a fellow blue belt separate my rib doing that, it took 4 weeks before I could roll (but I'm an old fart and heal slow). The pressure happens suddenly, and if you don't tap quickly you can get hurt.

**Whacker** · Posted On: 7/12/2010 10:20pm

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

Where does the pressure come from? Arms or legs or is it it a push/pull thing?

Also would like to hear the answer to these questions. Also, where is the pressure supposed to BE? It looks like the uke's upper rib cage is being squeezed in, from what I know the rib cage is very strong... or is this more aimed at the floating ribs?

**fanger123** · Posted On: 7/12/2010 10:33pm

Originally Posted by joecos

Be very careful with that one, I had a fellow blue belt separate my rib doing that, it took 4 weeks before I could roll (but I'm an old fart and heal slow). The pressure happens suddenly, and if you don't tap quickly you can get hurt.

did you know about the move beforehand?

**gregaquaman** · Posted On: 7/12/2010 10:36pm

To get my thick head around this it is basicly a crush done with your knees in their ribs. Sort of lock your legs together and extend up?

**omoplatypus** · Posted On: 7/12/2010 11:11pm

can this crunch still work if you are both on your side?

**speedycerviche** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 8:11am

"can this crunch still work if you are both on your side?"

How often does that happen?. Even if it does I doubt you will both on your sides very long.

**joecos** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 10:42am

Originally Posted by fanger123

did you know about the move beforehand?

Did not know about it before I was injured, it is not something that Marcio ever taught while I was in class.

**fanger123** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 10:53am

Originally Posted by joecos

Did not know about it before I was injured, it is not something that Marcio ever taught while I was in class.

same here, i think i avoided the possible injury because I became a very fast tapper...

from what i gather from the prev posts, i think bjj players need to be more aware of this move and learn to defend or tap quickly to avoid getting hurt (kinda like kneebars)

**omoplatypus** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 11:19am

Originally Posted by speedycerviche

"can this crunch still work if you are both on your side?"

How often does that happen?. Even if it does I doubt you will both on your sides very long.

there are more than a couple of things i do from my side.

if you're setting this up and they fall over, is it possible to finish it?

**speedycerviche** · Posted On: 7/13/2010 11:25am

"there are more than a couple of things i do from my side.

if you're setting this up and they fall over, is it possible to finish it?"

I could not see why not. Thats funny I can not ever remeber seeing two people on their sides while holding guard other then people doing gi chokes as people generally try and get top position as soon as there is an chance. What do you do from your side btw?.