224902 Bullies, 3676 online  
  • Register
Our Sponsors:

Results 21 to 30 of 30
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Sponsored Links Spacer Image
  1. Aikislacker is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    58

    Posted On:
    4/28/2011 3:19pm


     Style: Judo, BJJ

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Chick here-
    I've avoided BJJ for years because to me it was just adult wrestling and I had no interest in that.
    Later, I realized that if I'm really interested in self defense, I'll need to be able to get out from under a guy at some point. Enter BJJ. Now I realize that all of the positions/moves will help my goal and I see more value in choking someone out than possibly trying to throw/tie them up.
    The guys at my gym are great- no egos, very helpful, also clean : )
    We don't do much no gi, which might change my opinion if we did.
    One thing I cannot stand is when a guy (esp. in judo) refuses to throw me or practice a technique completely and treats me differently than the guys. I am not made of china. Just fucking practice the technique already. Also, DO NOT ask me constantly if I am ok. I've been doing martial arts for a long time and do some pretty rough sports in addition. I can handle the bumps/bruises/whatever happens in class. Don't treat me any differently than any other student, or I will not stick around.
    Gearing classes a bit more towards self defense would definitely be a good idea for attracting/keeping women. Best of luck.
  2. Petter is offline

    12th level logic wielder

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Posts
    1,964

    Posted On:
    4/28/2011 4:30pm


     Style: BJJ, judo, rapier

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikislacker View Post
    One thing I cannot stand is when a guy (esp. in judo) refuses to throw me or practice a technique completely and treats me differently than the guys. I am not made of china. Just fucking practice the technique already. Also, DO NOT ask me constantly if I am ok. I've been doing martial arts for a long time and do some pretty rough sports in addition. I can handle the bumps/bruises/whatever happens in class. Don't treat me any differently than any other student, or I will not stick around.
    I understand this perspective completely. One thing to keep in mind is that guys who ask you that may all and may not always not be doing so for sexist reasons—I sometimes worry about going too hard on people who are very new and/or very much smaller than myself; I know from experience that rolling with someone who outweighs me by 60 lbs can be painful and frustrating, and am not anxious to put someone 60 lbs lighter than me through the same; and when, e.g., landing a bit harder on someone than planned from a takedown… I occasionally stop and ask: The other person is not necessarily (in fact very rarely) a woman.
    [ petterhaggholm.net | blog | essays ]
    [ self defence: general thoughts | bjj: “don’t go to the ground”? ]
    “The plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data.”
  3. Epeeist is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    314

    Posted On:
    4/28/2011 4:42pm


     Style: Kyokushin/Capoeira

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikislacker View Post
    Chick here-
    I've avoided BJJ for years because to me it was just adult wrestling and I had no interest in that.
    Later, I realized that if I'm really interested in self defense, I'll need to be able to get out from under a guy at some point. Enter BJJ. Now I realize that all of the positions/moves will help my goal and I see more value in choking someone out than possibly trying to throw/tie them up.
    The guys at my gym are great- no egos, very helpful, also clean : )
    We don't do much no gi, which might change my opinion if we did.
    One thing I cannot stand is when a guy (esp. in judo) refuses to throw me or practice a technique completely and treats me differently than the guys. I am not made of china. Just fucking practice the technique already. Also, DO NOT ask me constantly if I am ok. I've been doing martial arts for a long time and do some pretty rough sports in addition. I can handle the bumps/bruises/whatever happens in class. Don't treat me any differently than any other student, or I will not stick around.
    Gearing classes a bit more towards self defense would definitely be a good idea for attracting/keeping women. Best of luck.
    It doesn't help some guys who get mixed signals from girls who bitch about being treated too roughly and then a real woman comes along who actually wants to train and fight and gets treated like a glass figurine. Not to mention I know some guys are afraid of getting accused of being perverts if hand accidentally meets breast.
  4. pittfrog is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts
    242

    Posted On:
    5/01/2011 10:28am


     Style: Judo/BJJ

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but there's one thing that most grappling gyms could change to make their places more attractive to women: do something to deodorize the place. I am completely inured to the smell, but when I've brought women to my gym (and my gym is professionally run and very clean), they all comment that the place smells like sweaty guys. In contrast, the yoga studio I attend (which is hot yoga, so there are plenty of sweaty men and women) smells like the lovely essential oils they use.

    You wouldn't have to burn incense, or have aromatherapy oil burners, but a few professional deodorizing stations such as can be installed in bathrooms and restaurants would work wonders. Women don't dig man stink.
  5. kikoolol is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Sainte-Foy, Quebec
    Posts
    398

    Posted On:
    5/07/2011 10:52pm


     Style: BJJ, Judo

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    One thing I cannot stand is when a guy (esp. in judo) refuses to throw me or practice a technique completely and treats me differently than the guys. I am not made of china. Just fucking practice the technique already.
    Guilty as charged.

    Keep in mind that guys might be treating you more softly because of bad experiences in the past. I know it's my case.
  6. judoka_uk is offline
    judoka_uk's Avatar

    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    England
    Posts
    4,619

    Posted On:
    5/08/2011 7:47am

    Join us... or die
     Style: Judo

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    An alternative perspective, women involved in grappling need to work harder and commit more.

    We have one girl at our Judo club who has opnely and unashamedly told me that she tries to avoid getting sweaty at Judo. And most of the girls don't try that hard and whe practicing with each other at least a third of their practice time is taken up by them giggling over the fact that one of them has made a mistake.

    This attitude is not true of all women and some work very hard, harder than some of the men and really work, but I would say they are in the minority.

    As for the treating women differently, its not right to not practice with a woman, that is obviously out of order. However, men do have to go lighter on women and be careful. There's no way I could do full power nagekomi on a woman, for instance.
  7. Ming Loyalist is offline
    Ming Loyalist's Avatar

    solves problems with violence

    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    4,330

    Posted On:
    5/08/2011 8:03am

    supporting member
     Style: Judo, Hung Family Boxing

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    As for the treating women differently, its not right to not practice with a woman, that is obviously out of order. However, men do have to go lighter on women and be careful. There's no way I could do full power nagekomi on a woman, for instance.
    as usual, the judo predator is correct,

    i play lighter against anyone who is smaller and weaker than me (women, men, kids) and expect the same from guys who outweigh me (especially the ones who outweigh me by 100+lbs.) what good is it for them to use pure force to pick me up and slam me? doesn't do either of our judo any good.

    that being said, you also take into account how good the other player is. a couple days ago i was at the kodokan and got thrown all over by a 5ft tall 100lb old man who holds a 7th dan. i was not holding back against him, let me tell you.
    "Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
    "When I was a little boy, I had a sailor suit, but it didn't mean I was in the Navy." - Mtripp on the subject of a 5 year old karate black belt
    "Without actual qualifications to be a Zen teacher, your instructor is just another roundeye raping Asian culture for a buck." - Errant108
    "Seriously, who gives a **** what you or Errant think? You're Asian males, everyone just ignores you, unless you're in a krotty movie." - new2bjj
  8. tao.jonez is offline
    tao.jonez's Avatar

    Ninja Fruit

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    2,055

    Posted On:
    5/09/2011 2:58pm


     Style: JKD, Jiu Jitsu

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Given that one of our instructors is a female pro fighter, our school seems to attract (and retain) more women than most.

    Many of the women won't roll with the guys, but fortunately they have female partners to work with most times. We have a pretty mature school; only a few hormonal young guys, which makes the environment more palatable as well.

    Lastly, the instructor uses males and females as demo-dummies, and treats everyone the same regarding technique. He does make sure to show female-friendly alternatives to techniques (such as different hand positions for drilling armbars) when appropriate.

    We respect the differences between men and women without being held hostage to them.
    "Never trust a quote you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln



  9. Soldiermedic is offline
    Soldiermedic's Avatar

    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    1,168

    Posted On:
    5/09/2011 3:04pm


     Style: bjj/judo

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Having one "female only" night at our place helped out a lot. I think when there are female noobs its more intimidating to be in a regular class. I think once they are integrated and feel more confident and get to know the other members its not so bad.
  10. jnp is offline
    jnp's Avatar

    Titanium laced beauty

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    8,230

    Posted On:
    5/09/2011 10:53pm

    supporting memberforum leaderstaff
     Style: BJJ, wrestling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Powered by vBulletin™© contact@vbulletin.com vBulletin Solutions, Inc. 2011 All rights reserved.