6/24/2010 9:10am, #11
Depends on what you are looking for. The vast majority of schools tend to focus on choreography of the form, and underplay the importance of sparring.
It's unfortunate that Zhaobao is mostly unheard of outside China and California. It focuses on heavy close-range grappling, throws, and takedowns. Even their push-hand is heavy on trips and throws. I believe Tim Cartmell's Taiji background is in Zhaobao style.
Judoist, do you know the name of the teacher yet?
6/24/2010 9:11am, #12
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6/24/2010 9:59am, #15
Wait wait, someone said that he was a "fourth dan" in taiji...or is judoist confused?
Anyway, I'll hold off until we get an instructor's name.
6/24/2010 10:01am, #16
6/24/2010 10:02am, #17
However, earlier posters are correct. There are plenty of TCC instructors who don't do pushing hands. You would need to find one that does.
There are many that do push hands and do not know what they are doing. Push Hands alone is not good enough. As was said by Der in the first post if it doesn't include many of the elements he named you are just man dancing.
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6/24/2010 10:25am, #18
6/24/2010 10:29am, #19
Good TCC is all about making your skeleton do the work, not the muscles. Its all about body structure, grounding and balance.
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As far as push hands being offered not being enough, that is true but could be said of any training of any type. There are plenty of places that don't do push hands at all. All they teach is the choreography.
Frankly, I have not seen TCC being taught as a fighting system in my area (greater Boston) at all. That seems to be what you are saying that the Judo player should be looking for. I don't know how much luck they are going to have finding that.
I count myself lucky that I have an instructor who knows the martial applications and has us practice them.
6/24/2010 10:32am, #20
The biggest Taiji organization in my area is Taoist Tai Chi *snicker,* with the second largest org to offer "Tai Chi" being Dahn Yoga (which has it's own thread.)
You have to live in places like California to have decent schools on a large scale.