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    black belt...when?

    Im just wondering... How long should it take to become a black belt in karate (any style)?

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    To OP: Generally you want to train at least 3 times a week, and if you are looking at karate, do some research to see what fits you. Are you aggressive? Do you want to be on the offensive? Shotokan is the way to go. Maybe you'd rather react to aggression and avoid conflict(Kosho Ryu). If you post more information about where your location is, and what your goals are, I'm sure there are many members on the site that can help point you in the right direction.

    Read the stickies though
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    Quote Originally Posted by soldiermedic25 View Post
    Really?

    Sigh.

    This place is your best bet. The directions are at the end.
    YouTube- Kung Fu Institute
    Hope this helps.

    Seriously though, you'd be better served using the search functions or READING THE STICKIES
    Don't troll the noobs in here, bro.

    OP: There are lots of good martial arts that don't use belt systems (Muay Thai, Kickboxing/boxing, etc). Chinese martial arts used to not have a belt system until I think about 10 or so years ago when they adopted "sashes".

    But specifically in regards to your question, to receive shodan ranking in a good karate style can take anywhere from 4-10 years, depending on a few factors such as technique, fighting spirit, or enthusiasm for training.

    It depends on the individual.

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    Examine why you would want to know this information. While doing that, understand that a fist level black belt in karate signifies someone as a serious beginner. Realize most people will role their eyes when someone asks this question, particularly because its asked so much and understood so little. That being said...maybe 5-6 years, but there is no solid answer. A first level black belt is someone who has a solid grasp of basic movements.

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    I do really agree with everything stated above(because also in my personal experience it takes a decade or something),but I would like to know what exactly you wanted to know with your question.

    Because if you consider the black belt as a sign of strength and skill( well in that case only read what I write after this,else you can very well skip all the following part of my post lol) in my poor opinion you're doing quite the wrong question.

    There are black belt really sloppy and inadeguate to their level and yet white/yellow belt who are way stronger and skilled than them.
    Moreover my teacher used to say " Black belt is where you begin in the THE way ,before reaching that particular level you're not doing karate". So it's not such a big accomplishment that alone.
    Please elaborate further : ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by daishi View Post
    black belt in karate signifies someone as a serious beginner.
    ^^^ this.

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    Ok before I begin let me just say that what I am about to say is not specificly support by any one source that I could site off the top of my head. This is what I have cobbled together over the last 10 or so years from multiple sources and should be taken as more or less anecdotal.

    Ok a blackbelt signifies the aqusition of proficiency in a specific skill set (in this case a martial art). To have a specific skill set nerologically ingrained takes roughly 10,000 hours of practice in said skill set to achieve. So if you were to log the hours you spend training than when your are around the 10,000 hour mark you should be at the point of receiving your blackbelt. If you were to train for about 2 hours a day you would be at this point in roughtly 10 years. If you trained 6 hours a day than you would reach that point in about 6.5 years.

    Having said this please understand that this is how I mark the progression of my students and is not a formula that is widely used (at least not that I am aware of). How long an actual black belt will take to achieve will vary wildly based on where you get it from. I've seen McDojos awarding black belts when the school itself isn't even a year old. The average "good" Karate school will likely be about 6 to 8 years and some up to 10 to receive a black belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmutlvx View Post
    ). Chinese martial arts used to not have a belt system until I think about 10 or so years ago when they adopted "sashes".
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    Are you 15? That's the only way you'd think sashes were adopted by kung fu 10 years or so ago.

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    OP - Depending on where you go, you can get a blackbelt in 3-5 years for Karate. Something like BJJ will take twice as long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Are you 15? That's the only way you'd think sashes were adopted by kung fu 10 years or so ago.
    Correct. I took KF in the early 80's and they were already using sashes. It probably started in the late seventies at the very latest.

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