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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEA View Post
    Only because Chuck Hardin used his supposed Judo experience as a basis to judge others.
    No, he never did in any of the investigations he conducted. This is simply not true. He used Mark Tripp's knowledge to judge people's ranks fake or false. The real issue is the lie and the balking at the application of the same standards to himself.


    The main problem, which you just repeated, is the perception he conducted a large number of investigations. He did not. he wrote up probably triple what he investigated or conducted.

    Looking back, he was very careful to stay away from any Martially related statements. He always deferred to the actual practitioners.

    Since Mr. Harding was part of numerous Bullshido investigations, his dishonesty throws a taint (albeit a mild one) on all of the investigations that he was involved with.
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    Correction noted.
    Mushi mo atsui hodo
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    Originally Posted by chuey
    ...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

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    Three rights make a left.
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    Why are we still talking about this? It seems to be a non issue. Cy didn't do Judo or at least not what Tripp has defined Judo as. Cy says he did Tripp's Judo and was proven that he didn't. Judo seems to be the mostly highly regulated of all martial arts. The other issues of Cy seem to be more important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkdjudohead View Post
    Why are we still talking about this? It seems to be a non issue. Cy didn't do Judo or at least not what Tripp has defined Judo as. Cy says he did Tripp's Judo and was proven that he didn't. Judo seems to be the mostly highly regulated of all martial arts. The other issues of Cy seem to be more important.
    You know if you want something to die you shouldn't post right? Now, the question applies to you.
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    This is from Steve Durchin. I got the name from chuck so I wrote to steve and asked a few questions. His answers are in caps. It doesn't add much other than at least Bill Kitz did teach in a community setting.

    Did you ever train judo or any other martial art under Bill Kitz in Austin Tx?
    YES

    Do you remember where you trained? i.e. a proper gym, a community college field house, or something else?
    BEDICHECK JUNIOR HIGH GYM

    Do you recall Chuck Hardin being in any classes with you?
    NO; BUT I REMEMBER DISCUSSING KITZ'S PROGRAM WITH CHARLES AT CROCKETT HS IN AUSTIN.

    Did you ever spar with Chuck?
    NO BUT DID "SCREW AROUND" AS FAR AS TRADING KICKS AND PUNCHES AT 3/4 SPEED; CHARLES' TECHNIQUE WAS THAT AS KITZ TAUGHT

    Do you remember any judo tournaments that Bill Kitz took you to while training with him?
    I WENT TO A JUDO MATCH WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL; I DON'T RECALL ANY DETAILS

    Do you remember ever going to practice judo, watch tournaments or participate in tournaments on Bergstrom AFB-specifically in the mid 80's?
    NO

    Is there anything else you would like to add?
    I STUDIED WITH BILL KITZ IN 1983 AND 1984 THROUGH A COMMUNITY EDUCATION PROGRAM; WHEN I STARTED, KITZ WAS TEACHING JUDO ONLY; KITZ THEN ADDED A SELF-DEFENSE COURSE; ABOUT THE TIME THAT KITZ BEGAN FORMATION OF THE AMERICAN FREESTYLE FIGHTING ASSOCIATION (AFFA), I QUIT MY STUDY. KITZ'S STYLE WAS BASED ON WING CHUN WITH SOME JUJITSU "TRICKS".
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    Just out of curiosity, who is Steve Durchin and how did you contact him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeFan View Post
    Just out of curiosity, who is Steve Durchin and how did you contact him?
    Steve is just someone who trained under Bill Kitz in Austin around the same time Chuck claimed to have trained. Other than that, I have no idea who he is. I got his name from Chuck (which I put in the original post). I wrote to Steve and asked him some questions. Unfortunately he didn't have a lot to add.
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