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  1. fights4peace is offline

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     Style: BJJ, FMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka-Bar View Post
    BTW, this is the video fights4peace posted to prove his point.

    Then he realized how shitty it was and edited his post

    YouTube- the sickest defense for a choke there is
    :nobodycar this didn't satisfy his criteria. and I wont beat a dead horse
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by fights4peace View Post
    :nobodycar this didn't satisfy his criteria. and I wont beat a dead horse
    Translation: There is no video evidence of secret Phillipine techniques developed to fight the Japanese, Spanish and USMC being used to beat BJJ BBs. In other words it's Bullshit.

    People, stop looking for magic bullets. There are no shortcuts. You actually have to train hard under knowledgeable instructors from legitimate styles that practice live. That is the way.
  3. fights4peace is offline

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    6/21/2010 10:09pm


     Style: BJJ, FMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorpal View Post
    Translation: There is no video evidence of secret Phillipine techniques developed to fight the Japanese, Spanish and USMC being used to beat BJJ BBs. In other words it's Bullshit.

    People, stop looking for magic bullets. There are no shortcuts. You actually have to train hard under knowledgeable instructors from legitimate styles that practice live. That is the way.
    hes right. this is just marketing Kino Mutai, but without purple belt lvl skill in bjj its like punching from the shoulder. there are no true short cuts. In order to have great stand up you need muay thai in order to have great ground you need bjj. then learn how to cheat other wise it is worthless.
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     Style: Judo, Sub wrestling

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    Quote Originally Posted by fights4peace View Post
    hes right. this is just marketing Kino Mutai, but without purple belt lvl skill in bjj its like punching from the shoulder. there are no true short cuts. In order to have great stand up you need muay thai in order to have great ground you need bjj. then learn how to cheat other wise it is worthless.
    How about spending that extra time just learning more BJJ?

    Pretty sure that'd be more worthwhile than learning how to fill your mouth with delicious Hepatitis C.

    I'd recommend training sambo or catch wrestling over learning how to give yourself AIDS, if you want methods to deal with BJJ'ers which they would not expect.
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     Style: Judo, ITF, MT

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    What was with the background in that vid?

    It looked like a crushed velvet background from a bad 80's porno. Hand on a minute.. doesn't he have a mullet? Re-using leftover props perhaps? Or something more sinister?
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     Style: Muay Thai, Boxing, nogiJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgargano03 View Post
    http://www.elitejkd.net/martialarts-programs-rat.htm

    "Also how to defeat a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Blackbelt in seconds... It's been possessed by a handful of legendary greats like Dan Inosanto..."
    If that were the case why would Dan Inosanto have trained in, and currently be teaching, BJJ if he could so easily dispatch a BJJ BB in seconds?

    http://inosanto.com/?page_id=69
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     Style: Judo, ITF, MT

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    Quote Originally Posted by karma2343 View Post
    If that were the case why would Dan Inosanto have trained in, and currently be teaching, BJJ if he could so easily dispatch a BJJ BB in seconds?

    http://inosanto.com/?page_id=69
    To get the time down to ONE second, obviously.

    A goal which, while appreciated in his Martial Arts class, is not appreciated by his wife.

    Hahahaha I kid. He probably lasts ages. Please do not beat me up Mr. Inosanto!
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    6/22/2010 2:10am


     Style: Hsing I, Bagua, Chi kung

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    ELITE Jeet Kun Do. Sounds like ELITE Modeling Agency. Which is really incall/outcall escorts.....

    The crappy history re: Philippine Insurrection has got red flags all over it. Sweaty marines wrestling bare chested Moro guerrillas to the ground, in clouds of hash smoke, it's all so....gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fights4peace View Post
    hes right. this is just marketing Kino Mutai, but without purple belt lvl skill in bjj its like punching from the shoulder. there are no true short cuts. In order to have great stand up you need muay thai in order to have great ground you need bjj. then learn how to cheat other wise it is worthless.
    Or you need Kyokushin Karate+ Boxing for standup.

    Or you need Sambo for groundwork.

    Or you need to TRAIN HARD IN YOUR CHOSE LEGIT ART to be able to achieve those.

    I agree with you that cheating comes after you are proficient in those styles. After all, a nut kick will hurt more if you have hardened your shins.... Lol.
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    6/22/2010 5:06am


     Style: BJJ, Judo

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    "In order to have great stand up you need muay thai in order to have great ground you need bjj."

    Wrong.

    Fedor is one of the best in MMA ever and has great ground game and stand up and is a Judo/Sambo/Boxing guy. Semmy Schilt is one of the best kick boxers of all time is a Karateka. I could go on but the point is, no BJJ and Muay Thai do not have the monopoly on great ground and stand up skills.
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