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    Originally posted by Shumagorath
    My major complaint about the Judo rule book was banning the scissor takedown because people were diving forward to avoid Ippon and thus ruining their knees. BAN DIVING, not the the takedown!

    Oh, and for the record, I don't generally bother with pinning unless I want to exhaust my opponent. I go for submissions almost exclusively because I want it to be clear who won the fight.
    Osaekomi makes it very clear who won the fight.

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    Originally posted by Shumagorath
    My major complaint about the Judo rule book was banning the scissor takedown because people were diving forward to avoid Ippon and thus ruining their knees. BAN DIVING, not the the takedown!

    Oh, and for the record, I don't generally bother with pinning unless I want to exhaust my opponent. I go for submissions almost exclusively because I want it to be clear who won the fight.
    I believe that was not the reason. If I remember, it was because it is easy for the tori to over rotate and screw up uke's knees.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.

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    I think in general it was ukes doing dangerous things to escape - The catalyst was Yamashita injuring himself when someone did kani-basami on him. Let's face it, if he screws up, anyone can.

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    Ronin said: The sport versions of the MA always take longer to evolve than the combat versions of the same arts.

    I disagree. They evolve in different aspects not different speeds. Sports are based on performance not concepts, principles, or theories. They aren't free to evolve into useless nonsense unrelated to performance unlike combat MA.

    Quote: Judo, the sport , has rules that keep it within context, but the MA of judo is ALWAYS evolving and changing with the times, to an extent, like any other MA.

    Sport judo evolves like all sports do; within the rule set. The evolution of sports is geared toward improving athlete's abilities in competition. You may well be right in saying that there is a difference between the "art" of judo and the "sport" judo.

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