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    Chuck, your bio states:

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    Practiced judo as an adolescent, kung fu as a young adult, and now back to judo.
    Martial Arts Experience
    I trained in judo between the ages of 14 and 16. In early adulthood, I took up tiger style kung fu, but never got much past the basic shaolin chuan material. I have returned to judo recently.
    Can you confirm at least this stuff? We ask people (you do too) questions like this all the time and give them **** for not answering. Look, it's not like you are claiming black belt or anything, so why not simply say where you train?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve View Post
    Chuck, your bio states:

    Can you confirm at least this stuff? We ask people (you do too) questions like this all the time and give them **** for not answering. Look, it's not like you are claiming black belt or anything, so why not simply say where you train?
    Asking a question is one thing, making an accusation is another. I want proof of his bullshit accusation. If he can't offer that, he's not worth talking to.

    If you are asking without endorsing the accusation, I'm happy to answer. Otherwise this kind of looks like junior high drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101 View Post
    The last time I was around and there was a challenge/clusterf*ck thread, I asked for an official site Challenge Ruleset (4th Edition), but nothing was ever done, and I was told privately that challenges are unofficial and that producing rules etc would potentially leave the site in a dodgy position, legally, if, say a guy with a competitive combat sports background fought a hobbyist martial artist and crippled him.


    Hey, you know me, WW... simple soul, wide-eyed and innocent. Just pointing out that whatever your stated motivation, it could look from the outside like there's a not-so hidden agenda.
    My agenda is that I want to see Chuck's Judo in action. As for what other people think, there is probably nothing I can do about that anyway. Right?

    And yes I do know you, and no offense was intended.

    @Hardin Can I get a training history and a fucking date please? And height/weight? I want to calculate your BMI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce View Post
    Asking a question is one thing, making an accusation is another. I want proof of his bullshit accusation. If he can't offer that, he's not worth talking to.

    If you are asking without endorsing the accusation, I'm happy to answer. Otherwise this kind of looks like junior high drama.
    As I said, I BELIEVE you are full of ****. I will find out if I am correct if you will stop blathering and set a date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    @Hardin Can I get a training history and a fucking date please? And height/weight? I want to calculate your BMI.
    Last chance, slow learner. If you don't answer with your proof of my allegedly false claims, I won't bother accepting your challenge. No point humoring someone who's clearly just trolling an investigation. Bad precedent.

    Or you can admit you lied, and that'll be an answer too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101 View Post
    The last time I was around and there was a challenge/clusterf*ck thread, I asked for an official site Challenge Ruleset (4th Edition), but nothing was ever done, and I was told privately that challenges are unofficial and that producing rules etc would potentially leave the site in a dodgy position, legally, if, say a guy with a competitive combat sports background fought a hobbyist martial artist and crippled him.
    Well, if this is the case then there is no rule set in stone that gong saus are specifically for challenging claims of martial arts expertise as Chuck claims. In which case, Matt's motives are not as relevant as Chuck states.

    Anyone more familiar with GS's care to elaborate on the rules or lack there of please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    As I said, I BELIEVE you are full of ****. I will find out if I am correct if you will stop blathering and set a date.
    To be full of ****, i would have had to claim some sort of fighting expertise. That's where your lie falls apart.

    One more reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    As I said, I BELIEVE you are full of ****.
    What has Cy said that you think is so full of ****?
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    What is your height?
    What is your weight?
    WHere have you trained?
    Where do you train?
    What rank(s) do you hold?

    Simple stuff. Just answer so I can prepare properly.
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    Luta Livre flees the fight,
    Behold Maeda's sacred tights;
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve View Post
    Well, if this is the case then there is no rule set in stone that gong saus are specifically for challenging claims of martial arts expertise as Chuck claims. In which case, Matt's motives are not as relevant as Chuck states.
    I'm not making that demand under gong sau rules. I'm making it to set something straight: If he wants to fight me because he doesn't like how the Arce investigation is going, let him say so. If he wants to fight me for his original claimed reason, let's see him prove the claim.

    Pretty basic Bullshido stuff here.
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