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  1. excludedmiddle is offline

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    This showed me that my BJJ training was much more keyed towards BJJ competition than BJJ self defense, otherwise I would have learned proper sprawling, strike defenses, throws & takedowns. I'm learning more material practical for self defense in my Judo class.

    So would you say Judo is better for self defense in general even if the ground game is just fundamental? Oh, and where in Southern California are you, btw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by excludedmiddle View Post
    So would you say Judo is better for self defense in general even if the ground game is just fundamental? Oh, and where in Southern California are you, btw?
    Victorville area.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

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    Quote Originally Posted by excludedmiddle View Post
    So would you say Judo is better for self defense in general even if the ground game is just fundamental? Oh, and where in Southern California are you, btw?
    Judgment call... yes, I believe that Judo is better for "self defense", & I wouldn't call Judo's ground game "fundamental".
    However, I think that not bolstering Judo ground with BJJ or Sambo is folly for a well-rounded grappler interested in anything besides the strictest competition Judo.

    [okay, that was weird, don't know why I did that...]
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
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    Hi iyopud.

    Did you go to KMA? Also, you should check out the Saturday MMA class at the wack wack gym. This guy Elcer, he's going for the URCC (You know. Our local MMA promotion) title in his weight class. He trains with us. I got my ass whooped by him last Saturday. Educational as hell. He's also a great guy who'll do padwork with you until kingdom come and gives great feedback.
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    I won't come until payday. Once I do, I'll enroll right away.
    Thanks for everything.

    I was worried about some BJJ club's attitude. The whole 90% ground and 10% lousy pull to guard stuff but the place I'm eyeing also gives some Judo and Wrestling so I guess they're different.

    I'll probably just keep my stance a little lower at the mean time. Besides, I can't block strikes worth ****...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopyud View Post
    I won't come until payday. Once I do, I'll enroll right away.
    Thanks for everything.

    I was worried about some BJJ club's attitude. The whole 90% ground and 10% lousy pull to guard stuff but the place I'm eyeing also gives some Judo and Wrestling so I guess they're different.

    I'll probably just keep my stance a little lower at the mean time. Besides, I can't block strikes worth ****...

    Brilliant. Hope to see you at the belt gradings, man.
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    Thanks for the encouragement.
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    Victorville area.

    Would you be down for the possible upcoming Orange County throwdown? Some of us are trying to get that together and I think Omega may have a place.
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    It takes time to learn to fight effectively. Start with one, then when gain some proficiency, learn another area. Don't worry so much about being complete from the very start.
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    Would you be down for the possible upcoming Orange County throwdown? Some of us are trying to get that together and I think Omega may have a place.
    It would really depend on my schedule, if I have the time it would be great.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
    ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney
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