Just for the record (before this has a chance to take a turn for the nasty), Jason Brinn is not *really* grading people to the rank of 'rabbi', for money or otherwise. Sri was joking - but it seems that fights4peace may have missed that...
Originally Posted by maofas
i don't like his blatant abuse and misrepresentation of my religion. I don't care what he personally believes, just don't lower mine to a selling point.
Originally Posted by Larus marinus
There's probably at least one Zulu out there who is thinking exactly the same thing, except with fighting sticks instead of religion. :icon_geek
Originally Posted by fights4peace
Or some old Irish guy with a shillelagh.
or some .....wait every culture has in some form fought with sticks.
heres a list of styles:
Bajan stick licking (Barbados)
Bartitsu (English, Swiss/French and Japanese)
Bâton français (French)
Bōjutsu (Japanese, Okinawan)
Calinda (Caribbean, especially Trinidad)
Canne de combat (French)
Dravidian martial arts (Dravidian)
Egyptian stick fencing
Gun (staff) (Chinese)
Jogo do Pau (Portuguese)
Juego del Garrote (Venezuela)
Juego del Palo (Canary Islands)
La canne (French modern)
Nguni stick fighting (South African herdboy tradition)
Obnu Bilate (South Africa, Southern Botswana)
Quarterstaff (English Medieval)
SCA rattan weapons (United States)
Tamil Martial Arts (Tamil)
palcaty - signum polonicum (polish)
I don't think Bartitsu, the stick portion at least, can be categorized as Japanese. Didn't Barton-Wright get the stick material entirely from Pierre Vigny? The Japanese had a stick style called tanjojutsu but I forget whether it was a contemporary of Bartitsu or not.
Also, I'd like to get a second opinion on kendo as a stick style. Yes, the training was done with sticks(if we want to call a shinai a stick) but for swords ,at least in theory. I know kendo and kenjutsu were not meant to be entirely synonymous.
and rattan sticks in escrima are really machetes but everyone equates it with stick fighting
Originally Posted by dougguod
That depends on who you ask. Some escrimadors will tell you that the stick is a proxy blade, others will tell you that a stick is a stick. Others still will tell you it can be either and the technique being used indicates what the "real" weapon is. For instance, a thrust could be a stab (blade) or a jab (stick), swinging could be slashing (blade) or bludgeoning (stick), but the styles that teach close quarter locking and trapping, which may require grabbing one's own stick [pause for immature giggling and Lebell references] for leverage probably wouldn't attempt doing so with a two-foot razor. For context, how does your FMA treat stick use?
Originally Posted by fights4peace
Last edited by dougguod; 6/23/2010 1:29am at .
As both. We focus alot on defanging which is the same regardless and alot of our disarms our stick style especially in sumbrada. We don't disarm machetes. For them defanging is the only disarm.
Last edited by fights4peace; 6/23/2010 1:46am at .
How have I missed this thread until now. Man, these forums are going absolutely crazy these days.
And for the record, the whole Judiasm angle is one reason I kept pursuing the Brinn investigation once it came to light; it is offensive and misleading, in that people can think he is teaching a Jewish martial art.
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