A common theme I'm seeing on Bullshido

**Dustin_211** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 12:57am

I studied Northern Shaolin Praying Mantis (later changed to "Fighting Mantis" after the shaolin threatened a lawsuit), under Sifu Reginald Wheatley, who has since apparently decided to focus on his music. I stayed in the class for about a year and achieved a rank of blue belt. This school was relatively small (about 20 students MAX) and did point-sparring a LOT. The video you guys have posted show some weird wrist striking and grappling techniques that were not present in the style i was learning. What we did was basically northern longfist...Chinese boxing. The famous "mantis claw" hand position was used purely to redirect an opponent's balance, using the circular "deflection" tactic common is Kung Fu. It was used to upset balance, cause a "distraction", and usually was followed by a low kick or foot stomp which was used in combination with a transition of stance. Emphasis was on point-sparring and forms ie: winning trophies. This style teaches good avoidability/deflection/parrying skills and fast movement. If you use those weak strikes though, you are gonna get your ass kicked. I've recently taken up Isshin-Ryu under a great 8th Dan Sensei. It uses the vertical punch, but in a more realistic way which utilizes momentum and physical strength to deliver power to the strike instead of the weak snapping technique+"chi" strategy. Switch to a hard style. Kung Fu kinda sucks.

**Dustin_211** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 1:29am

A common theme I'm seeing on Bullshido is the idea that if something doesn't win a MMA match, then it isn't effective on the street. You guys are silly. Here is why Isshin-ryu CAN be effective.

1. A big muscular man punching the **** out of somebody is effective.

2. Isshin-ryu training (with an effective IE: physically torturous and evil instructor) strengthens the body and teaches a solid body-punching technique.

Hence, good Isshin-ryu training can help you become a big muscular person, who knows how to punch the **** out of an opponent.

Oh ya...and just to piss everyone off... Western-boxing/MT/MMA/horizontal fist karate is weak and counter-intuitive. You use your fists in an un-natural, monkey-like way because that is what youve seen on TV and in the movies since you were a child.

**SaintHamish** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 1:37am

Originally Posted by Dustin_211

A common theme I'm seeing on Bullshido is the idea that if something doesn't win a MMA match, then it isn't effective on the street. You guys are silly. Here is why Isshin-ryu CAN be effective.

1. A big muscular man punching the **** out of somebody is effective.

2. Isshin-ryu training (with an effective IE: physically torturous and evil instructor) strengthens the body and teaches a solid body-punching technique.

Hence, good Isshin-ryu training can help you become a big muscular person, who knows how to punch the **** out of an opponent.

Oh ya...and just to piss everyone off... Western-boxing/MT/MMA/horizontal fist karate is weak and counter-intuitive. You use your fists in an un-natural, monkey-like way because that is what youve seen on TV and in the movies since you were a child.

Glad you Necro'ed the thread to get your point across.

Well done.

***battlefields*** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 1:39am

Shut the **** up, n00b, get the **** out.

STFU and GTFO. For reiteration.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 2:03am

You know what else is a common theme?

People new to training educating the masses of bullshido while.....

Originally Posted by Dustin_211

I've studied this style (Dragon Claw Kung Fu System) a bit in Columbia, MS.

Originally Posted by Dustin

I stayed in the class for about a year and achieved a rank of blue belt.

Originally Posted by Dustin_211

I've recently taken up Isshin-Ryu

Originally Posted by Dustin_211

I study martial arts (and have attended classes in several styles for 8 years) for my health and self-fulfillment.

.....admitting they are dabblers with very little martial art experience.

Culled:
Can i get more info on Mantis Kung-Fu - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

1point2: Do you teach Judo at your Isshin-Ryu school? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

**mumbles** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 3:50am

Originally Posted by battlefields

Shut the **** up, n00b, get the **** out.

STFU and GTFO. For reiteration.

Lol double

**mumbles** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 3:53am

how is western boxing "un-natural"?

**Stu-Jitsu** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 4:07am

****, this thread is choc-full of commonly occuring themes on bullshido.

1. "You guise alwayz diss tha kung foo, but MY kung foo is teh r0x0rz - AND i was tot by grandmaster X/Morpheus"

2. "Ha you all so silly, MMA/Boxing/MT no good for teh streetz, only my supa deadly krotty style can help yoo thar"

3. Noobs necro'ing old threads and clogging up YMAS.

4. Some guy saying something like, shut up and do boxing/judo.

There. Now, shut up and do boxing or judo or something.

Stu xD

**Mtripp** · Posted On: 6/17/2010 4:31am

Odd, I was just speaking to someone about my experiences with Isshinryu last night.

I trained at a VERY harsh place where they actually told people to go to the makiwara and break their knuckles! I was lucky my Judo teachers stepped in and pointed out that "your hands are pliers not hammers..." OK, they actually said something else, but its early and I have no idea how to spell "micromater."

In any event, martial sport trumps martial arts every time. If you are serious about your training, pick one of those.