Watch and Shoot !
Posted On:5/18/2010 9:37am
Ok, for those of you who know anything about UK gun laws you'll be aware that I live in a country which has a "nanny state" government and banned the ownership use of firearms years ago (aside from black powder weapons) I used to belong to a gun club and enjoyed shooting SLP on a fairly regular basis, over and above the skill at arms involvement within the forces. That sadly changed when this countries fuckstick politicians chose to penalise the honest gun enthusiast by banning anything remotely interesting (to me anyway) worth firing.
I've been without private ownership of a firearm since then and always missed the opportunity of talking **** down the club with other members and having a pint after a good shoot.. Until now !!!
Early in the new year a friend introduced me to the concept of airsoft. Now, before you roll your eyes and decry "FUCKING LARPER" at the top of your voices, let me add that I'm not into running about a local wood in full cammo shooting other airsofters and taking it or myself too seriously, no, actually quite the opposite.
After a considerable amount of research I decided that I wanted both a self loading pistol and a reliable gas operated rifle which accurately (or as near damn-it) replicated the operational functionality of a real weapon. I looked at the Systema line of M4A1 variants and found them to be as real as you could buy without it actually firing 5.56mm however, the cost implication was fucking staggering, likewise Inokatsu manufacture an M4 which on appearance , weight and mechanical functionality would easily fool even experienced operators (until it fired obviously) but again the cost of such units including the ancils I wanted put the weapon well over the budget I had available.
Eventually I found a brand (G&P) who manufactured a fully upgraded M4 variant using a real VLTOR body and other mechanics within my budget; so I bought one !
Here in the UK these are considered under law as RiF's - Realistic Imitation Firearms and one can own and use them under certain conditions, the primary one is that you have to belong to an airsoft site (I won't bore you with the finer bullshit) but this lead me to a site in my home town and eventually into teaching their club members some basic tactics and skills which has all but paid for the outlay of the rifle, pistol and other kit.
The rifle fires at 450fps which is pretty good for this type of replica, because it's an all metal construction (aside from the expected ABS parts) its about the weight of a real M4, the magazines are midcap carrying around 150 BB's and are weighted to feel like a fully charged 30 round 5.56mm mag would so, all up you have a realistic feel.
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Posted On:5/18/2010 9:56am
Style: Kettles (MA hiatus).
Jesus I didn't know there were parameters required for buying Airsoft apart from age limit. I remember buying all sorts when I was 16, spring loaded mind as the gas was too expensive but even then you didn't need anything more to purchase a bigger 'gun' apart from the cash.
Posted On:5/18/2010 10:02am
If it looks real you have to be a member of a club (airsoft, re-enactment, stage, etc). You could buy exactly the same rifle coloured florescent yellow and you'd get round the law.
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Posted On:5/18/2010 12:03pm
Indeed the bright colour option is there but would you want to two tone a rifle ?
Strictly speaking you don't need to be a member of a club or group, just be able to show a defence under the law for ownership, which is.. that you're a regular "skirmisher". A retailer could, if so inclined, make contact with the club/site at which you skirmish (although not a member) and providing they were prepared to vouch for your identity and participation, you can legally be sold RIF's. The issue of selling these weapons is the reason why UKARA was set up.
The laws governing these weapons are a freaking joke really and it isn't policed just like many half baked knee-jerk laws which exist !
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Posted On:5/18/2010 1:03pm
How's the accuracy?
Originally Posted by Emevas
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Posted On:5/18/2010 5:05pm
Style: Student Jutsu
Can we get a Dave a LARPer tag?
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Posted On:5/18/2010 6:00pm
Originally Posted by TheRuss
How's the accuracy?
It's pretty good for what is essentially a replica.
Straight out the box it was shooting 450fps but I've added a RATech negative pressure adjustable bolt and it's now shooting 550. This in its self assists in the accuracy although, granted not by much.
I zeroed the rifle and scope a few days ago and it seems pretty constant.
****.. I think I'm turning into Ralph Severe.
Bayonet drills anyone ???
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Posted On:5/18/2010 10:00pm
Style: German longsword, .45 ACP
You can legally do blackpowder weapons in the UK? Well holy ****, that's not so bad from a hobbyist standpoint. How about some cowboy action competitions?
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Posted On:5/19/2010 2:22am
Yep, but screw that you can get licences for cannons!
Posted On:5/19/2010 6:18pm
You know what would be badass? To start freaking Redcoat Fury competitions in the UK. Everyone has to dress up as a redcoat and fire a freaking musket at a variety of targets at various ranges, including steel, IPSC targets, and no-shoots. As long as you don't break the 180 rule you are allowed to run up and bayonet the IPSC targets as well.
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