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  1. MMAMickey is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conde Koma View Post
    Since you don't have a problem with it, do you believe that we should lift the ban on PEDs and such? Remove the testing procedures in place? This is an honest question.
    I do. Keep them for the amatuers bu let the pros do it, seeing as they are doing it anyway.

    I'd rather see doctors to advise on safe usage. Stop people ending up like Eddie Guererro.
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    you're wrong, you know...
    I have to ask because I simply don't know, but how does taking roids increase skill?

    I can see it increasing size and strength, but I'm lost on the increasing skill thing. It's one thing to say that people want huge guys knocking the piss out of each other with bone-crunching power, and it's another to say that taking roids increases the technical skill level by +30 attack of someone who was otherwise a bad fighter.
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    Train longer and harder with quicker recovery = greater skill, no?
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    It upsets me that everything that needs to be said has already been said, however I will add that Ken Shamrock admitting to using steroids is like when Ricky Martin came out of the closet.
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    I cannot help but LAWL at the rubes who actually think that most of these guys aren't on a cycle at some point of the year. A guy is training hours a day, doing insane amounts of cardio, heavy lifting, and skill training on top of it? And he looks like and Adonis statue on top of it all? Is everybody really that dumb? I wish I could find the link/mag that made excuses for Sherk when he came up positive. It was one of the funnies/saddest things I ever read...
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    Quote Originally Posted by justsome View Post
    I cannot help but LAWL at the rubes who actually think that most of these guys aren't on a cycle at some point of the year. A guy is training hours a day, doing insane amounts of cardio, heavy lifting, and skill training on top of it? And he looks like and Adonis statue on top of it all? Is everybody really that dumb? I wish I could find the link/mag that made excuses for Sherk when he came up positive. It was one of the funnies/saddest things I ever read...
    You've got folks that argue that Mr. Olympias and WSM aren't on gear.

    I think it's less that people don't want their heroes to be on gear, and more that people want to believe that they can be just like them without needing to use gear.
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    It's not whether or not they are, it's whether or not we should tolerate it like we do. So far, the only argument I've heard for it is that "Well, they're doing it already" and "Well, it sells fights." As far as trying to create a sport goes, I don't think these are acceptable reasons for letting it continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conde Koma View Post
    It's not whether or not they are, it's whether or not we should tolerate it like we do. So far, the only argument I've heard for it is that "Well, they're doing it already" and "Well, it sells fights." As far as trying to create a sport goes, I don't think these are acceptable reasons for letting it continue.
    I think we should legalize them and then make them legal in sporting competitions.

    Where does that place me?
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    I don't know, why do you think they should be legalized?
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    I'd say legalize and test thoroughly. The guys not on steroids can get an equalizer in the form of legal ball shots. What would be the greater advantage—juice or slamming a shin into one's opponents ballsac?
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