Thread: Steve Arce credential dispute
6/13/2010 9:27pm, #261
Was there something you wanted to help with?
6/13/2010 9:31pm, #262
The main issue here seems to be whether Steve Arce deserves a black belt "tag" on Bullshido.net. Not all the he said-she said drama between Gokor, Karo, et al.
What exactly does Bullshido.net need to be satisfied that Steve deserves a black belt "tag" for Judo? A valid rank certificate from USJA, USJF, or USA Judo? He's what, $16 short of that ? Can somebody just send JA a check for $16 so Steve can be a "legit" black belt?
6/13/2010 9:38pm, #263
6/13/2010 9:42pm, #264
6/13/2010 9:43pm, #265
6/15/2010 4:39am, #266
Just in case someone missed this:
I wish to apologize for taking so long to come up with what is clearly the obvious solution to the current ranking issues of Steve Arce. Why it took me this long is beyond me, and I can only say current health issues must have effected my thinking process.
After all, having offered the same process to Matt Morton and Ralph Severe, with the total support of the forum, why not offer the same process to Steve? I have, and he has accepted.
We are working on the date as we speak. But what will happen is that I am going to fly Steve to me, here in Michigan. I am going to set up a series of clinics and Camps so MANY people will be able to see his skills firsthand, as well as he will have a chance to meet some pretty solid people I know. For sure we are going to be doing one clinic in the Detroit area, and at lest two clinics in Ohio.
I am working to convene a promotion board of the highest judoka in Ohio Judo who will assist in the testing and validation process. So there should be NO doubt that we WILL find the EXACT rank is qualified to hold, and will certify him to that rank ON THE SPOT.
Steve is aware his papers are not accepted by the Judo groups here in the US. However, he is working hard to correct the problem, unlike Matt or Ralph. As such, I would respectfully say that any and all discussions of what rank Steve holds, be placed on hold until the legitimate verification process takes place. Because while his current rank papers are not accepted in the US, the ones he gets from me will be.
Moreover, some of you are going to have an OUTSTANDING chance to work on your "no-gi judo" for mma or submission grappling before the summer is out.
More to come....
Mark Tripp"Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC
6/15/2010 4:45am, #267
Thanks, but there is a problem with this, and its what the hold up is for his Judo rank. If we Validate him as a Shodan, he is a shodan as of the date its issued. So the clock on time in grade requirements is set to zero on that date. I have suggested we go for a full promotion board to find out exactly where he is, so that his future promotions will be in a timely manner.
My date of rank for 6th dan is 10/8/2003; I have to wait another two years before I can begin the process for 7th dan. There is no way I will ever get higher than 7th, just due to the time in grade requirements alone."Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC
6/15/2010 8:26am, #268
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Hi, been lurking throughout this investigation. Nice to see this being resolved logically and professionally.
One question Mtripp. How high can you, a 6th dan, rank him? In one of Arce's posts he claimed 7th dan, so I was wondering what could/would happen here.
6/15/2010 8:40am, #269"Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC
6/15/2010 1:23pm, #270
Also, is Steve going to be able to document all the things necessary to be promoted up to say, sandan? The JA requirements get pretty strict after nidan, and especially so for yondan,including kata. Hopefully things can get documented here and used for verification purposes by the promotion board you have proposed in another thread.