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6/05/2010 3:53am--
Phui.
First, lets get the actual legal point out of the way. Even if unarmed, you do NOT have the right to approach someone who is legally detaining you with a firearm. A reasonable man can attest that said approach is an attempt to disarm, and use the weapon against, the person holding them. If the youths simply walked away, going AWAY from the man with the gun, THEN shooting them would have been a major no-no. Of course this did not happen, and it was a justifiable shooting.
Now to the bigger picture. Again we get the flummery that "A TV set (or whatever property involved) is not worth a human life." Really? Is the Constitution worth a human life? Lots of people have died for it, and the rights they protect.
Yes, a TV set is not worth a human life. That however is not the issue. The PRINCIPLE that what I earn with the sweat of my brow belongs to me, and NO ONE has the right to take it from me without due process of law, THAT most surely is worth a human life. I am willing to die to protect that right, and I am more than willing to kill in defense of it.
Sadly in this Country we have had 80 years of progressive and activist Judges setting case law based on leftist clap trap that has brought us here. That is going to piss of the resident leftists here, especially those who live in other Countries. So be it, and screw them.
One can hope that we have clearly seen why such Judges need to be removed, and we need to return to the Country our Founders gave us.
It is good to see that the Jury got it right."Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC -
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Posted On:
6/05/2010 9:30am
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Can't say I understand the reaction. The shooting was legally justified and the jury found as such. Is the indignation over the trial? Because if a duly appointed representative of the state of New York thinks they have a case that the shooting wasn't justified they have the right to make it. They didn't have that case and the man went free.
I don't understand the indignation of the article if everything was done by the book and in the end the innocent man went free. Is the problem that he even stood trial?
Also, I don't get the problem with the family reaction. Yes, teenagers do stupid crap and one of three things happen. Either they get away with it and go onto worse. Get away with it and grow up. Or the above happens.
I'm not going to say that the teenage petty crook deserved or didn't deserve what he got. You engage in a dangerous and illegal activity, you takes your chances. He got one probable outcome that he was old enough to know was probable.
On the other hand, there is no family, even one that is angry with their offspring for being up to no good, that will feel like their son had his death coming to him. Not for making a stupid decision while drunk at 17. The kid could have wrapped his car around a tree and died. That's just as illegal and just as potentially harmful to law abiding citizens around him and you and I might say he deserved that, too. His family never would.
So, of course they are going to consider the shooting death an overreaction. This is a case of everyone acting the way you'd expect reasonable people to in a given situation and there was a long legal fallout over someone's death (also an expected outcome). I agree down the line with the facts. I'm confused at the tone. -
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QFT.
That's really all that needs to be said.
Oh and I think you are reading it as an article writer yourself. It is poorly written.
The tone switches from agreement that the kids were idiots to sounding like the Man should have been punished. It reads like a new writer trying to hard to be neutral and going to extremes instead.Last edited by It is Fake; 6/05/2010 10:02am at .
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Posted On:
6/05/2010 11:42am
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Maybe. I got the distinct feeling that there was some kind of editorial commentary the author wanted to make but the story only tangentially fed in to it. So, in order to focus on just this story he left the editorial commentary out and instead just comes off as angry about something that is left mysterious and unsaid.
It seems like a long way to go but I used to tutor kids in college and saw the symptoms of that all the time. I mean, he even put "What is wrong with New York?" in the title when the innocent man was acquitted. So, as a reader I'm still left with the question. What is wrong with New York? -
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Rodderick Scott trial: what is wrong with NY?