BUJINKAN NINJITUS vs SHINOBI SOLDIERS

**doomx2001** · Posted On: 6/03/2010 11:08pm

Originally Posted by Styygens

OK, Brian/Doomx2001 --

Assuming you are legit, and not a nasty troll, please visit this link:
How to Discuss Koga Ryu/ninjutsu Lineage Claims - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

Although the title and content refer specifically to "Koga Ryu," it really goes for all ninjutsu lineage claims, including the Bujinkan. Please familiarize yourself with the suggested guidelines. The most important rule is that if you make the claim a particular organization's lineage is legitimate, then you bear the burden of proof for that claim using evidence.

For various reasons, the topic is not exactly on point for MABS (and it seems this thread started out there...) and if (after reading and understanding the "rules" in the link) you really think you can argue for the authenticity of the Bujinkan ninjutsu lineages, YMAS isn't the right forum either. You should consider creating a new thread in the Traditional Martial Arts -- Japanese Martial Arts subforum. (Please don't muddy up the stickied threads at the top on the subject.) In The JMA sub-forum, you are (somewhat) less likely to encounter noob trolling and random pirate jokes. If your information is presented well, we can attempt to keep out the riff-raff... a little.

BTW, is English your native language? I ask because you don't seem fully comfortable with writing. Perhaps it was the late hour? It would be best if any obstacles or challenges in communication were acknowledged up front.

Thank you, and good luck.

Thanks for the link, I will check it out.:icon_thum And, yes, English is my native language. However, I am awful writing and spelling. Also I apologize for posting a thread in the wrong subforum.

**doomx2001** · Posted On: 6/03/2010 11:16pm

Originally Posted by Plasma

Repeating what Hatsumi told you does not make you a martial arts historian.

Read the Bujinkan FAQ: Bujinkan budo taijutsu (ninjutsu) faq - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

Thanks for the link and info, I will check it out. And no, I do not accept whole heartedly what I am told nor do I believe it makes me a martial arts historian. Earlier, I referred to myself as an 'amature' martial arts historian, meaning, I still have lots to learn, but I am familiar with the history of many martial arts, but that doesn't mean I'm some specialist.

I will check out the info everybody is recommending. I appreciate the links.

***battlefields*** · Posted On: 6/03/2010 11:38pm

*rant condemning letting ninja bullshit thread slide*

*deletes rant*

I don't know, maybe I'm just pissed that White Kimbo vs DanBo's **** talking thread was stopped so prematurely.

doomx2001, just know you got off lightly.

**Uncle Skippy** · Posted On: 6/03/2010 11:38pm

It was all downhill ever since Hatsumi shaved that llama. He never knew what hit him.

**Styygens** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 3:04pm

Originally Posted by battlefields

*rant condemning letting ninja bullshit thread slide*

*deletes rant*

I don't know, maybe I'm just pissed that White Kimbo vs DanBo's **** talking thread was stopped so prematurely.

doomx2001, just know you got off lightly.

Where does anyone say you can't savage the OP? The only person letting him get off lightly in YMAS is you.

I directed him to the "rules" for discussing ninjutsu lineage. Plasma directed him to the Bujinkan FAQ thread. And someone directed him to the Roger Conant article thread. But no one asked anyone else to play nice in this YMAS thread.

"We do not train to be merciful. Mercy is for the weak."

**shotfghter** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 3:48pm

You know OP, I really thought Bujinkan was legit - but after watching the links and information you gave me on top of the other links presented in this thread, I now see Bujinkan is pretty suspicious. It's kind of funny because the link you gave me was in the defence of the booj. I am now distrustful of the Bujinkan organization. This is the 2nd person, one who is in this forum (Styygens) and Cummings himself who has questioned said "art" they have trained in for long periods of time.

Thanks for the link.

**Styygens** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 4:02pm

Questioning is good.

**Bluto Blutarsky** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 4:33pm

why was i expecting there to be an advertisement for a 2010 version of the game "crossbows and catapults" in this topic?

**Larus marinus** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 5:30pm

Is this ninjas arguing about ninjitus?

YouTube- Psyduck and Slowpoke

**jkdbuck76** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 10:10pm

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

Ninja's are as real as Pirates of the Caribbean and Gunslingers of the old west. In case that wasn't clear enough: Pirates mostly died of scurvy and syphilis and no one ever met in the street at high noon.

I suppose that the next thing you're going to say is that there is no Santa and no smart blonds?