Jidokwan Dan ?

**artiemask** · Posted On: 6/02/2010 10:58pm

Has any ever seen a poom certificate written for adults.
A friend just received such a promotion. Tried to give good council but
as he told me Jidokwan federation Issued the paperwork. Now correct me if im wrong but I didnt think jidokwan issued dan certificates.
Thank You
Artiemask

**daishi** · Posted On: 6/02/2010 11:02pm

I will try to find out....a buddy of mine has trained in Jidokwan for about 20 years and I will see him tomorrow night. Standby...

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 6/03/2010 9:44am

Was he issued a pum grade or a dan grade?

Those are two completely different things.

**artiemask** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 1:25am

appreciate it!

**artiemask** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 1:28am

poom grade written out at fourth dan..... also was told that through jidokwan it was acceptable....what do you think?

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 6/04/2010 1:41am

Get me a scan of the certificate.

**rpeterson** · Posted On: 6/22/2010 12:05am

Where was this Jidokwan certificate issued? I'm no Taekwondo historian, but from what I thought I knew, the Jidokwan was absorbed by the Kukkiwon, and it lives on really only in memory. It's currently a fraternal organization in Seoul. At least, that's what I've been told by a few people associated with the Jidokwan in New York City.

The Jidokwan Kwanjangnim (Grandmaster Dong Keun Park) has a school in Jersey currently run by himself and his son. If you want me to toss an email to a couple of his students, I'd be happy to.

**daishi** · Posted On: 6/22/2010 1:33am

Sorry for such a late reply...I just copy-pasted your question in an email to my friend. I've actually seen him several times since your post. I knew there was something I needed to ask him but couldn't remember what. I actually help him teach kids classes on weekends at HIS dojo (dojang I guess) and found myself staring at promotion certs on the wall but couldn't think why I was compelled to do so at the time, lol. I do know the certs were authorized through the Ohio Jidokwan Assoc/Org which I am guessing is independent. There were certs from their original teacher but they were in Korean...I know they had one other dojo-cho but he retired about 6 years ago and turned the dojo over to two of my friends. Anyway, will respond when he emails me back.

**daishi** · Posted On: 6/22/2010 1:37am

...to add, the whole ranking system thing is kind of new in Japanese martial arts. I will related this to TKD/Jidokwan as it is my understanding they were influenced heavily by Tang Soo Do..which is basically Korean for Shotokan Karate (right?). Anyway, Jigoro Kano implemented a ranking system to appease the newer generations who craved some kind of immediate gratification/incentive for their training efforts. I find it is not too uncommon for schools who's style does not traditionally support a belt/dan/kyu system to add that in themselves for similar reasons.

**rpeterson** · Posted On: 6/22/2010 1:46am

The Chung Do Kwan was the Korean Shotokan organization, the pronunciation might not be the same, but it sure is similar. The Chungdokwan, the Jidokwan, and one other that escapes me right now went on to form what is now Taekwondo. I'm pretty sure modern Tang Soo Do is basically rehashed Shotokan as well, but with a few more Chinese MA principles thrown in. You'd have to consult a Tang Soo Do person though, and not one talks about the whole Taekkyon thing.