Female Judoka Entering MMA

**BKR** · Posted On: 11/30/2010 11:21pm

Originally Posted by Tenebrous

Totally serious.

That's a good one. Maybe "re-education"?

She had probably been struggling for a while in her personal life, and feeling the goddess like power of an elite level Judoka pushed her over the edge.

Ben

**PointyShinyBurn** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 5:26am

Originally Posted by Res Judicata

True, but Minowaman is a leglock specialist who has made a career out of beating bigger, stronger guys. His nickname is "The Giant Killer."

He made a career out of beating up massive dudes with minimal skill. Beating him is kind of the sin qua non of being a legitimate heavyweight. Crocop stopped him in 70 seconds.

Shibata is 4-10, also very undersized for Ishii and has a loss to the aforementioned Minowa.

**BKR** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 9:19am

He is starting out at or near the bottom, then? Not such a bad thing in the big scheme of things.

Ben

**PointyShinyBurn** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 9:50am

Originally Posted by BKR

He is starting out at or near the bottom, then? Not such a bad thing in the big scheme of things.

If he's looking to have an actual credible career he should be fighting people in his own weight class, starting out with inexperienced ones and working up. Freak-show matches aren't going to make him a better fighter.

**BKR** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 9:57am

I assume he is taking what K-1 gives him? How much control does he have in that system over who/when he fights. Of course, your are correct, though. I'm guessing he will work his way up the ladder/system. I'm no expert, but I'd say he has a long way to go before fighting skilled guys his weight class with a decent chance of success.

Ben

**PointyShinyBurn** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 10:24am

Originally Posted by BKR

I assume he is taking what K-1 gives him? How much control does he have in that system over who/when he fights.

He doesn't have to fight for K-1.

Originally Posted by BKR

Of course, your are correct, though. I'm guessing he will work his way up the ladder/system.

If history is any guide they will have him beat up a couple more undersized no-hopers/kick-boxers who don't know how to grapple and then toss him in with Overeem or Fedor at two weeks notice.

Originally Posted by BKR

I'm no expert, but I'd say he has a long way to go before fighting skilled guys his weight class with a decent chance of success.

Definitely. In addition, what he's doing is not the way to get there.

**BKR** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 11:09am

Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn

He doesn't have to fight for K-1.
If history is any guide they will have him beat up a couple more undersized no-hopers/kick-boxers who don't know how to grapple and then toss him in with Overeem or Fedor at two weeks notice.
Definitely. In addition, what he's doing is not the way to get there.

So, you think he is just earning some money and knows what is going on, or is being taken advantage of ? Or both?

Ben

**PointyShinyBurn** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 11:15am

Originally Posted by BKR

So, you think he is just earning some money and knows what is going on, or is being taken advantage of ? Or both?

Hard to form an opinion, not knowing the man. Going from his public image he doesn't strike me as notably full of guile and cunning and he made a lot of noise about wanting to train the right way, fight at the highest level etc. earlier on. So perhaps he's just being badly advised?

**BKR** · Posted On: 12/01/2010 11:59am

Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn

Hard to form an opinion, not knowing the man. Going from his public image he doesn't strike me as notably full of guile and cunning and he made a lot of noise about wanting to train the right way, fight at the highest level etc. earlier on. So perhaps he's just being badly advised?

It's hard to say. I would think there would be various routes to the top level he wants to achieve. My understanding is that the world of Japanese MMA is pretty convoluted, so I guess we'll just have to see how he develops over time.

Ben