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    Guys, I need some advice..

    I had a class tonight and I'm disappointed.

    This is at the school that I'm planning to move away from at the end of the month (See http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...t=95993&page=4 for the whole lowdown on the school. Pages 1, 2 and 3 are the "hi, I'm a noob" joint).

    The reason I'm sticking around for the month of May, is that when I told the sifu that I want to give notice, he said that I should at least stick around until I do my grading.

    It made sense to me at that stage, having something to show for the money and time that I have invested thus far.

    Originally, our instructor (not the sifu) told us that he thinks we'll be grading at the end of April. So I asked when are we grading and I got told at the end of May.

    Tonight we were informed that grading will start on the 8th of June. If not on the 8th, then definitely the following week.

    Grading takes 3 to 4 classes on average to complete. It can take up to 6, which means pushing into July, if it comes to that.

    So, from April to May to June (and maybe even July). That's 4 months' fees. This IS the standard time for beginners to grade, but with the dates being moved I'm smelling B.S.

    Also, we need the theory that we will be quizzed on. But we can't get the file/folder with the manual, because until we have a sash and a school t-shirt (we train in plain whites) we're not really considered members of the school (is this right? I mean, I've been paying fees and training and buying the weapons needed and paid my admin fee). That is what was said tonight. Luckily one of the guys has it after begging and bugging and will forward it on.

    So, now I'm starting to wonder of the sash and grading is actually worth it. I know that one of the other classes graded because one of the kids' parents complained that it's taking too long. So, what is it *really* worth?

    My question is:

    Do I cut my loss and the fairytale idea of being graded and getting a sash and just walk away and move on to the schools that I've found that cater to my training needs?

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    What the **** are you going to do with the sash if you're walking out anyway?

    Either stay for the long run and do your gradings as they come, or just leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post
    What the **** are you going to do with the sash if you're walking out anyway?
    Like I said, a keepsake for the effort and/or reminder of what I learned (in terms of actual training, how to spot B.S, etc).

    But, yeah, I should just GTFO.

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    Think of it this way: if you went to a casino and lost $1000, would it be smarter to try to go back and keep playing in hopes of getting back those $1000 or just cutting your loses and moving on?

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    Do I cut my loss and the fairytale idea of being graded and getting a sash and just walk away and move on to the schools that I've found that cater to my training needs?
    So you want to know if you should continue wasting your time and money on something that has zero value to you? For what? The idea that "well, I wouldn't want to have spent the money for nothing" is ridiculous, and it always makes my head hurt when people try to rationalize bad decisions with it. That's the kind of thinking that scam artists like this thrive on. You want a way better solution to memorializing how to spot bullshit? Don't give the bullshitters any more of your money.

    Look at it this way- if you went out to dinner, ordered a really nice steak, and they brought you a charred piece of ash that might have once been meat, would you sit there and choke it down because hey, you already spent the money, might as well make it worth it? No, you wouldn't(I hope not, anyway) because then you'd have spent the money for a good cut of meat, not gotten it, and then eaten the subpar result anyway. Congratulations, now you're out forty dollars, AND you just ate a ball of ashes.

    Just bail out, there's no point to staying. You want to leave. You know you want to leave. You know there's other stuff out there that you want to do. Why would you stay? The more money you spend on the worthless junk you're "learning" there, the less money you've got to spend on something you'd actually want to do.

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    something that has zero value to you?
    Okay ignore the riff raff, what do you want to do? You made this long ass post so, it means something for you. Set a time table and if he doesn't reach it leave.

    Yes, these guys are giving you practical advice but, they are not you.

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    And of course, you are spending more money on a meaningless symbol that actually garners anti-respect: people think less of your fighting skills for having it.
    Monkey Ninjas! Attack!

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    I swear to you that if you go to a good school where you are actually learning to fight (MT,BJJ,Judo,Boxing,Sambo,MMA) you will look back in three or four months and laugh at the fact that you ever considered staying to grade for a sash. GTFO and liberate yourself with some real training. Good luck.

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    Just an update on this:

    Thanks for everyone's advice - I took everything into consideration and thought long about it and, quite frankly, **** the sash.

    Since this post I'm one month into JJJ and I start sanshou this afternoon.
    I am considerably happier about my training than what I was a month ago.

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    Good for you. Let us know how sanshou works out.

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