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  1. Petter is offline

    12th level logic wielder

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    Additionally, there is such a thing as a difference in physical attributes—size, strength, and so forth—that requires a very large, perhaps an unattainable amount of skill to overcome. There are people out there you’ll never be able to beat, MMA training or no MMA training. It does not logically follow that some wrist-grabby style of martial dance will work better.
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  2. Mneme is offline

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    6/01/2010 3:06am


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    Hey, look at it from the bodybuilders perspective. He was just cracked in the face and made a total fool of by some skinny ass bouncer in a bar.

    On some Bodybuilding forum: "Man I was like 100lbs larger than the other dude but I couldn't tag him. Maybe I'm lifting wrong, I need faster muscles".

    And yes, his face should be pretty sore when the adrenaline wore off.
    Last edited by Mneme; 6/01/2010 3:17am at . Reason: my spelling sucks.
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     Style: Street Focus Jiujitsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mneme View Post
    Hey, look at it from the bodybuilders perspective. He was just cracked in the face and made a total fool of by some skinny as bouncer in a bar.

    On some Bodybuilding forum: "Man I was like 100lbs larger than the other dude but I couldn't tag him. Maybe I'm lifting wrong, I need faster muscles".

    And yes, his face should be pretty sore when the adrenaline wore off.
    I laughed at this, Hes got a point. In the end you kicked his ass because he didn't even hit you.
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    what the **** man.

    what would you expect when facing someone 100 pounds heavier than you in MMA? do you expect this to work like the movies? do you think you should be able to take on 10 guys at once because you've done 1 YEAR of MMA?

    you actually performed amazingly well. but you're deluded, you're absolutely clueless.

    you're lucky you've been training MMA and not ninjitsu or some ****, you might have got killed.

    also just to make a point, going to the ground in the street isn't the death sentence everyone makes it out to be. i've done it multiple times as a bouncer myself. i understand that in this situation you were concerned about his friends, but if the situation permits, the vast majority of people suck at grappling and are easier to handle on the ground once you've had a little training. and, it's much easier to RESTRAIN someone than to FINISH them. knocking/choking someone out is a lot harder than just holding them down. remember that.

    and quit that job, bouncing sucks.
    Last edited by danno; 6/01/2010 5:10am at .
  5. Lebell is offline
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    dirty judo perhaps?
    judo grab, the basic starting position: kuzushi:pull: headbutt fun: sleepytiem/omg you broke my nose/tooth time.
  6. JudOWNED is offline
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    This is a dumb thread.

    "One year of hobbyist level training in MMA and I'm not able to instantly destroy any attacker regardless of size??? I'd better title a thread 'MMA fails in the street' and ask people what art will allow me to be invincible!"
  7. ouchboy is offline

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     Style: Bjj / Mexican Judo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Skippy View Post
    Judo and hammer pants.

    Works every time.
    agreed.... add a halberd or a pike and you are basically....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudOWNED View Post
    This is a dumb thread.
    on the plus side, he'll hopefully be less of an idiot after reading this.
  9. CarlosJesena is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRuss View Post
    No. You put a guy in the gym long enough to put on considerable mass, he's going to gain strength as well.

    What you could say is that "most bodybuilders" are not skilled fighters, seeing as they're not training to fight.
    What I meant was that pound per pound, they are not very strong. Size =/= Strength and it's been proven. Good CNS = Strength. My 116lbs friend can squat 280 lbs.
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    Just kick him in the nuts duh
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