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  1. charlie echo is offline

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    12/11/2010 2:36am


     Style: karate, judo

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    Univ' Judo or Gracie BJJ

    I'm a karate-ka. I want more training in throws and grappling, 2/week, 2.5 hours per class. I'm a noob in Judo or BJJ.
    Judo club, at the local college, costs half as much as the BJJ gym for the same mat time.

    Tried both: both are tough, but the BJJ has more stronger guys.

    What shd I choose?
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    If you want to be able to throw people with jacket on and have rudemintry grappling and submission knowledge take judo. If you want to have (typically) average to below average takedown abilities yet intricate level of ground control, submissions, then take bjj.

    You can't lose either way. I'd say learn Judo, but that's cause I already am over the "OH NO WAY, SUBMISSIONS!" phase. I'm now onto "Oh sweet takedown/throw!" mode.
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    Train with the tougher guys.
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     Style: BJJ, judo, rapier

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    Beyond, as Tinny Tim said, the difference in focus (whereby BJJ will make you better at groundwork but judo will make you much better at throws/takedowns), the chief significant difference I see is that many BJJ schools, but AFAIK few judo dojo, will offer no-gi training, so if specific training for no-gi is important to you, that’s a factor to consider.

    Both are good martial arts, of course, so it still depends entirely on what you hope to achieve.
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    12/11/2010 5:26am


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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie echo View Post
    Tried both: both are tough, but the BJJ has more stronger guys.
    When you say stronger do you mean physically or as in ability wise?, i.e. X has stronger BJJ than Y.

    As others have said it just comes down to where you want to make the sacrifice, in your takedowns or in your grappling.

    Also worth noting is the quality at both places, where are you going to get better instruction?
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     Style: karate, judo

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    Hmm, the main instructors in both are outstanding, the Judo man has more attention to effective detail.

    The BJJ gym's players are physically stronger, meaner, on the average: harder to resist getting submitted by. Since my throw and grapple skills suck, both seem to have good skills.

    I hope to achieve MMA sparring skills to improve my full contact karate.
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     Style: Kenkojuku Karate, Judo

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    If your goal is to compete in MMA I think you need more groundwork and submissions than most Judo places will give you, so go BJJ. Also, BJJ gyms typically have connections to get you started on the right track in competition.

    If you just want to become more well-rounded, I would say Judo because you will spend time on both standup wrestling and groundwork. I'm sure I'd be a much better sub grappler if I did 3 years of BJJ instead of Judo, but my matwork is plenty good enough for SD, IMO.
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     Style: karate, judo

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    I want to be more well rounded and be decent for MMA people to see sparring with me to be challengng.

    I'd like to be a decent jack-of-all-trades in fighting and "master" of emptiness, of "no mind."
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    lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie echo View Post
    I'd like to be a decent jack-of-all-trades in fighting and "master" of emptiness, of "no mind."
    What?

    P.S. What kind of karate and do you have comp footage?
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