The case of the imaginary sensei

**DdlR** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 4:40am

Modern purveyors of Bullshido could learn a thing or two from this guy:

http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/20...ginary-sensei/

**Lebell** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 8:10am

DdlR: plus rep for you, you always have the coolest historical links and finds, you do not get enough credit for that.

**LThornton** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 1:38pm

I am just as glad that Sensei Ashikaga is imaginary, as I find his refusal to wear pants in that ad perturbing.

**DdlR** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 1:53pm

Wearing shorts with a gi jacket was pretty typical of early European jujitsu practice:

YouTube- "Textbook of Ju-jutsu" (1905) re-animated

**Styygens** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 2:54pm

I've heard of "no-gi" jiu jitsu, but "top-half-gi" jiu jitsu?

Although this is giving me an idea for these upcoming, sweltering summer months... Hmmm...

**Yoj** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 3:46pm

I expect no gi pants, or rather, very short gi pants was probably common, it's not so much they aren't wearing pants, it's more they aren't wearing hakama.

**TheMightyMcClaw** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 4:08pm

Originally Posted by Styygens

I've heard of "no-gi" jiu jitsu, but "top-half-gi" jiu jitsu?

You mean Sambo?

**cuatro76** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 4:16pm

Is there any record of these old school Judoka, Bartitsuka, Savateurs, Boxers etc ever getting together for UK throwdowns? Or at least to compare mustaches and shorty-shorts?

**DdlR** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 4:24pm

Originally Posted by cuatro76

Is there any record of these old school Judoka, Bartitsuka, Savateurs, Boxers etc ever getting together for UK throwdowns? Or at least to compare mustaches and shorty-shorts?

Yes, inter-style challenge matches were pretty common. Jujitsu vs. wrestling contests were promoted by E.W. Barton-Wright around 1900-01 and there were also jujitsu vs. boxing, jujitsu vs. savate, etc. challenges in Japan, the US, Hawaii and France.

Barton-Wright's Japanese champions (Yukio Tani and Sadakazu Uyenishi) made sports headlines by taking on much bigger men in their bouts, and they almost always won. OTOH the European wrestlers were kind of set up to lose by being required to wear gi jackets and fight according to the then-novel jujitsu (submission) rules.

**cuatro76** · Posted On: 5/29/2010 6:06pm

Originally Posted by DdlR

Yes, inter-style challenge matches were pretty common. Jujitsu vs. wrestling contests were promoted by E.W. Barton-Wright around 1900-01 and there were also jujitsu vs. boxing, jujitsu vs. savate, etc. challenges in Japan, the US, Hawaii and France.

Barton-Wright's Japanese champions (Yukio Tani and Sadakazu Uyenishi) made sports headlines by taking on much bigger men in their bouts, and they almost always won. OTOH the European wrestlers were kind of set up to lose by being required to wear gi jackets and fight according to the then-novel jujitsu (submission) rules.

So they weren't exactly "fixed" but the promoter always set up the rules to favor their fighter. I wish Guy Ritchie would make a movie about this.