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    The case of the imaginary sensei

    Modern purveyors of Bullshido could learn a thing or two from this guy:

    http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/20...ginary-sensei/

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    DdlR: plus rep for you, you always have the coolest historical links and finds, you do not get enough credit for that.

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    I am just as glad that Sensei Ashikaga is imaginary, as I find his refusal to wear pants in that ad perturbing.

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    Wearing shorts with a gi jacket was pretty typical of early European jujitsu practice:

    YouTube- "Textbook of Ju-jutsu" (1905) re-animated

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    I've heard of "no-gi" jiu jitsu, but "top-half-gi" jiu jitsu?

    Although this is giving me an idea for these upcoming, sweltering summer months... Hmmm...

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    I expect no gi pants, or rather, very short gi pants was probably common, it's not so much they aren't wearing pants, it's more they aren't wearing hakama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styygens View Post
    I've heard of "no-gi" jiu jitsu, but "top-half-gi" jiu jitsu?
    You mean Sambo?
    The fool thinks himself immortal,
    If he hold back from battle;
    But old age will grant him no truce,
    Even if spears spare him.

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    Is there any record of these old school Judoka, Bartitsuka, Savateurs, Boxers etc ever getting together for UK throwdowns? Or at least to compare mustaches and shorty-shorts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuatro76 View Post
    Is there any record of these old school Judoka, Bartitsuka, Savateurs, Boxers etc ever getting together for UK throwdowns? Or at least to compare mustaches and shorty-shorts?
    Yes, inter-style challenge matches were pretty common. Jujitsu vs. wrestling contests were promoted by E.W. Barton-Wright around 1900-01 and there were also jujitsu vs. boxing, jujitsu vs. savate, etc. challenges in Japan, the US, Hawaii and France.

    Barton-Wright's Japanese champions (Yukio Tani and Sadakazu Uyenishi) made sports headlines by taking on much bigger men in their bouts, and they almost always won. OTOH the European wrestlers were kind of set up to lose by being required to wear gi jackets and fight according to the then-novel jujitsu (submission) rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR View Post
    Yes, inter-style challenge matches were pretty common. Jujitsu vs. wrestling contests were promoted by E.W. Barton-Wright around 1900-01 and there were also jujitsu vs. boxing, jujitsu vs. savate, etc. challenges in Japan, the US, Hawaii and France.

    Barton-Wright's Japanese champions (Yukio Tani and Sadakazu Uyenishi) made sports headlines by taking on much bigger men in their bouts, and they almost always won. OTOH the European wrestlers were kind of set up to lose by being required to wear gi jackets and fight according to the then-novel jujitsu (submission) rules.
    So they weren't exactly "fixed" but the promoter always set up the rules to favor their fighter. I wish Guy Ritchie would make a movie about this.

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