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  1. NoGroinNoKrav is offline

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    The gun laws in Pensylvania are such bull

    I'm 18 and would like to invoke my second amendment rights. The law states at 18 I can buy a rifle and a shotgun but not a handgun. I have to be 21 for a handgun.

    That is fair, but I can't even go to a shooting range and rent a handgun until I'm 21? Yeah but I can buy my own shotgun and take it to the range.

    Makes a whole lot of sense. See I understand I can't buy a handgun of my own because handguns are easier to conceal. Though it is crazy that I can't rent one to use for like an hour or so at a range? It's not like I could get away with stealing it.

    End rant

    PS-you know how you can rent those public storage boxes? Woul I be allowed to keep guns I legally own in there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGroinNoKrav View Post
    I'm 18 and would like to invoke my second amendment rights. The law states at 18 I can buy a rifle and a shotgun but not a handgun. I have to be 21 for a handgun.

    That is fair, but I can't even go to a shooting range and rent a handgun until I'm 21? Yeah but I can buy my own shotgun and take it to the range.

    Makes a whole lot of sense. See I understand I can't buy a handgun of my own because handguns are easier to conceal. Though it is crazy that I can't rent one to use for like an hour or so at a range? It's not like I could get away with stealing it.

    End rant

    PS-you know how you can rent those public storage boxes? Woul I be allowed to keep guns I legally own in there?
    As far as I know, the 21 age for handguns and 18 for rifles and shotguns is not a state law but rather a federal law that applies to every state. I myself bought a handgun the day after I turned 21 and applied for my ccw permit a few days later.

    You also have to be 21 to buy handgun ammo which I find more troublesome. Some calibers are popular in both rifles and handguns. With Tompson Contenders you can get handguns chambered in many rifle calibers. I bought a 9mm carbine before I turned 21 and actually had to bring my receit to walmart to get them to sell me ammunition. When I was 19 I went to a gun store that refused to sell me a box of .22 lr's since there exists handguns that shoot .22's.
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    That's Federal law, bud. It's like that across the nation, no exceptions. However, possession is a different story. Look into your state laws. Having a weapon transferred to you by a non ffl private party is legal in some states if you are over 18. Example, here in AZ you can own and buy handguns from private parties legally at 18 and open carry at 18 as well. But CCW permits are limited to people 21 and older, as is buying from any FFL dealer.
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    Louisiana has the age at 21 yrs old to purchase a handgun. I thought that a rifle was 18 but I will have to check. I know for a fact that 21 is the standard age to legally own a handgun.

    In case you didn't know it, there is a bright side to all of this. After a few years, you WILL be able to purchase a firearm. Take a country like Australia for example. Normal "sane" individuals do not own firearms as it is against the law. If fact, you can't own a katana unless you have a lawful purpose for it. I miss my rights in the states and I didn't know how much in fact until I moved down under. Give me my Glock 23 anyday.

    Good Luck with your quest for a firearm.
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    Would a sawn-off shotgun count as a shotgun or a handgun, out of sheer curiosity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kultist View Post
    Would a sawn-off shotgun count as a shotgun or a handgun, out of sheer curiosity?
    It counts as a shotgun, but Federal law states that the barrel can be no shorter than 18". Although in some states you can pay a 200+ dollar tax and get one in a short barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kultist View Post
    Would a sawn-off shotgun count as a shotgun or a handgun, out of sheer curiosity?
    A shotgun with a barrel les than 18 inches is called an "SBS" under the 1937 NFA act, and a felony to posses without the proper tax documentation. The stock configuration is irrelevant to the shotguns classification, though you could certainly build an SBS with a pistol grip and verry short barrel. They are fun, but a bit limited in their range. They do make an excelent zombie deterent though.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
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    here in california forget about it, I wish the federal laws were the only hindrance. You are not allowed to carry a firearm here because god forbid you might hurt the criminal and violate his rights! Feel free to molest children, rob and shoot etc because lord knows you had a tough life and deserve the sympathy of out of touch rich ex hippies that live in Marin.... But you dare protect yourself you scumbag california will make sure you cry for Dante's last ring of hell!
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